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Re: Proposed MSDP filtering changes on Abilene


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  • From: Bill Owens <>
  • To: Matthew Davy <>
  • Cc:
  • Subject: Re: Proposed MSDP filtering changes on Abilene
  • Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:59:03 -0400

On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:11:55PM -0400, Matthew Davy wrote:
> So based on http://www.iana.org/assignments/multicast-addresses,
> which seems to be the authoritative source of multicast address
> assignment, the IANA reserved space is:
>
> 224.1.0.0 - 224.1.0.37 Reserved [IANA]
> 224.1.0.39 - 224.1.0.255 Reserved [IANA]
> 224.1.5.0 - 224.1.255.255 Reserved [IANA]
> 224.3.0.64 - 224.3.255.255 Reserved [IANA]
> 224.5.0.0 - 224.251.255.255 Reserved [IANA]
> 225.0.0.0 - 231.255.255.255 Reserved [IANA]
> 234.0.0.0 - 238.255.255.255 Reserved [IANA]

A quick count, we have 2739 MSDP SAs in our NYC router just now, and about
690 of them would be blocked by this filter. I have no idea whether they are
in the table because of unintentional leakage, or stupid application writers,
or perhaps are actually being used. The largest single group in the reserved
range is 234.21.81.1 has 271 sources, and is used by LimeWire. Of course, the
largest group is 'legit' in that it has been approved by IANA, but probably
shouldn't be getting out to the world; 224.1.0.38 (that's Retrospect, the
backup software, to save everyone from having to look). 313 sources. And our
old friend 224.0.1.76, the IAPP group, is hanging in there with 111 access
points chiming away.

> IMO this is definitely the "right thing" to do (regardless of the
> benefits) and would go a long way to accomplishing all the potential
> goals that Bill Owens mentioned.

I wasn't advocating for those goals; I was listing them as a question for the
group, to try to ascertain goal or goals we're aiming at.

Bill.



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