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  • From: Joel Jaeggli <>
  • To: Marshall Eubanks <>
  • Cc: Richard Mavrogeanes <>, wg-multicast <>
  • Subject: Re: I rest my case
  • Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT)

They're not cautious if they haven't deployed it by now, they're not
interested.

joelja

On Sat, 22 May 2004, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> Short term response
>
> - tell them to join this list and post their problems here
>
> Long term reponse
>
> - tell them to take (or oeven offer to host) one of our esteemed "Multicast
> Workshops"
>
> Next two are Vancouver, BC, and Columbus, OH.
> http://multicast.internet2.edu/workshops/vancouver/vancouver-mcast-announce
> http://jointtechs.ornl.gov/index.html
>
> I am sure that with these resources they can get the help they need.
>
> Marshall
>
> On Sat, 22 May 2004 09:50:19 -0400
> "Richard Mavrogeanes"
> <>
> wrote:
> > In the "Why don't we use multicast more often" department, we have just
> > concluded a 5 day
> > interactive video broadcast from the bottom of the Atlantic ocean (the
> > mission continues at
> > www.explorethesea.com, but the interactive portion is over). I received
> > at least 25 messages
> > from folks trying to tune in to the multicast but could not. Quite a few
> > of these were along the
> > lines shown in the message below, where they have I2 connectivity but
> > cannot receive multicast
> > due to "cautious network engineers". I suspect we make progress in
> > having uses complain that
> > they cannot participate, thus putting pressure on the staff to allow
> > multicast thru, but I still
> > see lack of availability at the user level to be a major problem.
> > Personally, I find it amazing
> > that institutions pay the very expensive I2 connectivity fees but, what,
> > use the connetion for
> > high speed email? In the next few weeks, the interest in multicast is
> > likely to increase as we
> > broadcast much of Dr. Ballard's return to the Titanic, live, via
> > multicast.
> >
> > I think it would be great if someone in this group could create/sponsor a
> > multicast
> > IMPLEMENTATION FAQ targeted at members IT staff. We don't need a "what is
> > multicast" but a "how
> > to" FAQ. I further think this group might form and post a volunteer list
> > of email and phone
> > numbers that member's local IT staff could turn to for help in setting
> > up their networks (I
> > cannot volunteer mostly because I do not have I2 access).
> >
> > It would have been useful if I could tell this below user to tell their
> > IT staff to contact a
> > designated member for help...
> >
> > >Cautious network engineers
> >
> > >>> "Richard Mavrogeanes"
> > >>> <>
> > >>> 5/21/2004 5:21:02 PM >>>
> > >No, all video is sent via multicast. It's hard to think of a reason why
> > >you would not have it enabled unless you have very old equipment.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: J
> > > Sent: Fri 5/21/2004 6:15 PM
> > > To: Richard Mavrogeanes
> > > Cc: D
> > > Subject: RE: Explore the Sea Internet2 Video
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > We're connected to Internet2 but do not have multicast enabled.
> > >Will the Vbrick work? What firewall protocols, ports do you need?
> >
> >
> >
>

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