wg-multicast - Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications
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- From: Jon Zeeff <>
- To: Bill Nickless <>
- Cc: "Marshall Eubanks" <>, Toerless Eckert <>, Goorah Shravan <>,
- Subject: Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications
- Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 11:46:39 -0500
I'd argue that MRTG doesn't show the short term packet loss caused by a ftp
session starting up and trying to use all the bandwidth that wreaks
havoc with video conferencing.
Broken things (like duplex mismatch) tend to cause lots of packet loss (ie, system is unusable until fixed). The .5% packet loss problem seems
harder to cure. Anybody have data on causes of most packet loss?
I'm not prepared to agree that oversubscription causes the "vast majority" of packet loss, especially in the R&E networks. I've looked at the MRTG/Cricket graphs of these networks and almost always see plenty of headroom. I agree with Marshall that there are a host of other problems that crop up.
I can't begin to count the number of times we find duplex mismatches, dirty circuits (clock skew is my favorite), routers mis-configured to handle multicast forwarding in software, IGMP brokenness, 5% of circuit speed rate limits on multicast traffic (!!) and so on.
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Jon Zeeff, 03/01/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Marshall Eubanks, 03/01/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Jon Zeeff, 03/01/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Bill Nickless, 03/03/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Jon Zeeff, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Marshall Eubanks, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Bill Owens, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Tony Rimovsky, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Marshall Eubanks, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Marshall Eubanks, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Hugh LaMaster, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, David Richardson, 03/04/2002
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- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Bill Nickless, 03/05/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Jon Zeeff, 03/05/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Dave Hartzell, 03/07/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Bill Nickless, 03/05/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Jon Zeeff, 03/04/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Bill Nickless, 03/03/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Jon Zeeff, 03/01/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Toerless Eckert, 03/01/2002
- Re: QoS requirements of multicast applications, Marshall Eubanks, 03/01/2002
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