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Re: Report from the Miami I2/NLANR meeting


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  • From: Guy Almes <>
  • To: "Kevin C. Almeroth" <>
  • Cc:
  • Subject: Re: Report from the Miami I2/NLANR meeting
  • Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 02:43:36 +0000

Kevin,
Let me express my appreciation, both for your excellent report and for the
vigorous working group engaged in the thread below.
I view this work as very important.
Regards,
-- Guy

"Kevin C. Almeroth" wrote:
>
> Here is my list of items that were generated out of the
> Miami NLANR/Internet2 Techs Workshop (sorry for being
> a month late... it has taken me this long to get caught
> up).
>
> 1. The new multicast deployment workshop (in addition to
> the intro to multicast workshop) was a tremendous
> success. My plan was to have lots of people ready
> to talk in case no issues came up, but given that
> lots of issues came up not everyone got to talk
> (sorry if you were on the list... opportunities
> will be available in the future).
>
> The feeling I got from talking to folks is that lots
> of people want to follow just behind what the cutting
> edge multicast deployment folks. I think people are
> waiting to hear that from the community that multicast
> is becoming ready to deploy. This process is a good
> thing and therefore it is also a good thing that people
> who are currently deploying multicast give talks, e.g.
> Ken Lindahl's talk (which is now available on the I2
> page).
>
> So, in the future, at each workshop, we will be having
> multicast deployment workshops in addition to the intro
> to multicast stuff. They may be short, they may be long.
> It depends on how many folks volunteer to talk.
>
> 2. A new year's resolution for me was to put together a
> multicast management tools and techniques WWW page with
> real-time stats and pointers to places to get help on
> multicast management. Stay tuned.
>
> 3. I'm going to work with the NLANR folks to get some
> useful (and more general) multicast information up on the
> NLANR multicast WWW pages. Included in this will be a
> survey of I2 members who are using multicast in their
> apps. Not only do we need multicast deployment expertise
> and status, but we also need multicast application expertise
> and status. I'd also like to make these pages community-driven
> so if there is stuff that SHOULD be on the list that isn't
> bring it up on the mailing list.
>
> 4. One focus for the coming year is to have more "big time" (tm)
> events that can be used to motivate campuses to deploy
> multicast. The NetAid was one last year. We are working
> on similar events for the future.
>
> 5. One technical issue is how to provide Abilene with a
> direct connection to AS10888 and any potential commercial
> ISPs who I2 members have a research interest in directly
> multicast peering. Guy Almes, the Abilene NOC folks, the
> NASA Ames NGIX folks, etc. etc. are all working to find the
> best technical solution. Currently, NREN is giving us
> commodity Internet groups and multicast routes.
>
> 6. Another technical issue that came up (based on what Ken
> Lindahl is doing at UCB) is whether we can do semantic-based
> allocation of group addresses, i.e. a certain ranges of
> addresses imply applications within a specified bandwidth
> range. As an example, Ken is currently doing a split into
> four groups: <200 kbps, <2 Mbps, <20 Mbps, and >20 Mbps.
>
> The initial consensus seemed like this was a good idea, but
> follow-up discussion with some folks has led me to believe
> that this may not be such a good thing (basically because
> administrative overhead is high and utility is low).
>
> So address scoping for low bandwidth and high bandwidth
> groups (important to distinguish what groups should be
> carried from I2 into the commodity Internet) continues
> to be a problem.
>
> That's all that is currently on my list... comments?
>
> -Kevin




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