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  • From: Kathryn Huxtable <>
  • To: Tom Barton <>
  • Cc: <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] moving groups and stems
  • Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:06:56 -0500

Sure. First of all, I miscounted. There were 50,000 subjects. There were
240,000 memberships, all JNDI subjects added as members to 638 groups.

I generated the XML import file using a Perl script that ran against my
Oracle database in about 100 seconds.

I'm afraid I don't really know the hardware specs for my test server, but
it's the same as my production server. It's a Dell Poweredge running RedHat
Linux. I'm using Java1.5.

The subject connector is JNDI running against an extremely oversized Solaris
box running SunJava 5.2. Would JDBC against Oracle be faster? I can do that,
but I'll have to worry about FERPA suppressing the name and description, so
I'll have to make my own JDBC connector to add some code. I get that for
free with my ACIs in LDAP.

The grouper database is Oracle 9i running on some sort of SunFire box.

I made the mistake of running this in a shell inside XEmacs, so I had to
leave my laptop on for all that time.

Anyway, does adding 240,000 memberships take 47.5 hours normally?

I've rewritten _processMembershipLists in XmlImporter so that instead of
removing the old memberships and adding the new ones, it gets the old
membership IDs into a HashSet, does the same with the new membership IDs and
then only removes or adds those that aren't present in both. This does
updates faster, since from day to day most of these groups' memberships
won't change that much (except for three times per year at semester breaks).

But that was after running this.


On 8/12/06 8:56 AM, "Tom Barton"

> Can you supply further details of the operation, the execution
> environment, and exactly how it was conducted? That does sound absurdly
> slow, and far off from my own experience.
> Tom
> Kathryn Huxtable wrote:
>> I just added external provisioning for all the base groups we might want to
>> use in composite operations. It took almost 48 hours. This is ridiculous.
>> My
>> home-grown group management can populate from empty in about four hours. My
>> nightly update only does adds/removes and so runs very quickly.
>> I can obviously write similar update code, but really, what all is going on
>> that adding 20,000 subjects takes so long? Is a table not indexed on some
>> attribute, or are you creating new subject records from the JNDI data in my
>> subject configs?
>> Inquiring minds want to know (fnord).
>> -K
>> On 8/4/06 3:43 PM, "Tom Barton"
>> <>
>> wrote:
>>> You should be able to use the XML import/export tool for this purpose.
>>> See
>>> <hint>
>>> It'd be good to include an example of how to "prune & graft", like
>>> you're wanting to do, in that wiki page.
>>> </hint>
>>> Tom
>>> Will Norris wrote:
>>>> can groups or stems be moved to somewhere else in the group hierarchy?
>>>> Looking at the database I can't think of any technical reason why this
>>>> wouldn't be possible, unless I'm overlooking something.
>>>> -will

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