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  • From: "Marshall Eubanks" <>
  • To: Bruce Curtis <>, wg-multicast <>
  • Subject: Re: multicast rollover
  • Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:00:16 -0400

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:34:22 -0500
Bruce Curtis
<>
wrote:
>
> On Oct 11, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Richard Mavrogeanes wrote:
>
> > I think the unicast rollover described in the attached has value
> > and that it can address the issue of dependable service to drive
> > the bandwidth consumption that multicast can ultimately solve. I
> > can see the ISP and/or IT staff saying "we've got to do something
> > about all these idential packets going to 1,000 users", and I
> > wonder if rollover with multicast bias is at least "an" answer.
>
> My memory may be going but it seems to me that this is the way the
> Microsoft Video player worked, at least a year or two ago, I

Windows Media had this (in ASF, not for RTP), and Broadcast.com used it, way
back in 1998 / 99. I assume the capability is still there.

Marshall


> distinctly remember reading about it and trying it out on a stream.
> (Perhaps a stream from an i2 meeting?). But since then I worked with
> the Anthropology department here when they were looking at using a
> Microsoft server to serve a multicast stream. At that time although
> it was listed as having he capability it was unclear on how to
> configure a Microsoft server to source multicast. In this particular
> example the local department was partnering with the Research Channel
> and wanted to source multicast only, we don't currently have the
> bandwidth to source lots of unicast copies of this stream. But I
> agree that in many cases it is desirable to have the user's client
> try multicast first and then fall back to unicast.
> I have also helped another local department set up multicast for
> streams on a Real server and I believe that is the way the Real
> client worked also, it would fail over to unicast if the multicast
> stream was unavailable, again a couple of years ago.
>
> I just sent email to another University in our state suggesting
> that they looking to multicasting some content they stream on some
> weekends, ideally a slightly higher bandwidth and higher quality
> stream via multicast and have it fall back to the regular speed
> unicast that they can support with their bandwidth.
>
> At a conference hosted here yesterday one of the Keynote speakers
> was from XM Satellite and he mentioned that some of their content
> will now be available via AOL and at least one other web radio site.
> I agree that it might take less convincing to get content like that
> multicast if the content providers can be shown that it is
> transparent to the end users (with an automatic fall back to unicast)
>
> ---
> Bruce Curtis
>
> Certified NetAnalyst II 701-231-8527
> North Dakota State University
>




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