All things related to multicast

[Brent Sweeny <>]

a lot of it will calm down when IOS and JUNOS have moderately-well-documented
fixes/coping strategies in supported versions of software.  we're almost at 
the
second phrase of that condition (e.g. for IOS, when 15S is out, hopefully this
week?), and then can do the first.    i think that when those what to do is
doable and understood, people will do it and we'll move past this stage of 
inadequacy.
as far as what forum, i think this one is appropriate for operational stuff,
but others should speak up there--it's not my forum.
        brent


i expect that having an IOS 

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:06:09PM -0500, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> Brent Sweeny wrote:
> 
> > i know for a fact that some people have turned off multicast peering until
> > this problem is manageable or cleared up--just talked with another one 
> > (not
> > an Abilene user) this morning.    Brent Sweeny/ Abilene
> >
> 
> Brent;
> 
>    How are we going to recover from this mess ? What annoucement
> will suffice to say that the problem is managable ?
> 
> - I suspect that RAMEN will be showing up off and on for months.
> Waiting for it to go away is not a good option.
> 
> - We have had good apparent results with our rate limits. Of course, it
> could be that we are rejecting good MSDP SA's - but these should be
> cached from before storms.
> 
> So, should there be a general announcement that the problem is
> manageable ? Should it go to nanog and inet-access in addition to
> these lists ? Or is this premature ?
> 
> Another question :
> 
> Would it be useful to set a operational multicasting mailing list ?
> (To deal with things like attacks, etc - like NANOG, but for multicasters.)
> So far we have
> 
> - wg-multicast - Internet 2 limited access list, with a heavy operational 
> content
> - mboned         - commodity internet list with research, IETF and 
> operational content
> - Ip multicast  - mostly "newbie" type questions.
> 
> None of these seem like perfect matches for questions of this nature.
> A new mail list, of course, would take time to develop an audience.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:02:45AM -0800, Bill Fenner wrote:
> > >
> > > >So, although I have received NO reports of people taking multicast off 
> > > >the
> > > >air because of the storms, I strongly suspect that this has indeed 
> > > >happened.
> > >
> > > Equally likely is that MSDP is breaking due to the rate limits and other
> > > "fixes" that people have installed.
> > >
> > >   Bill