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Re: [sip.edu] SIP.edu Call Notes - 2/16


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  • From: Bill Reid <>
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  • Subject: Re: [sip.edu] SIP.edu Call Notes - 2/16
  • Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:54:50 -0600

Candace Holman wrote:
The article that Bill Reid posted does indeed go on to compare SIMPLE and XMPP. Peter St. Andre's main complaint about SIMPLE seems to be the IETF. I heard it was true that SIP's main complaint against H.323 was the ITU. My question is: is this a protocol war or standards body friendly fire?

Here is an article talking about SIP, SIMPLE, XMPP and RTP. Granted it is from Jabber.com but it seems pretty fair. Quoting from the paper

"In contrast to popular perceptions, RTP, XMPP, and SIP are quite complementary and provide the basis for a complete solution to real-time communication needs."

http://www.jabber.com/index.cgi?CONTENT_ID=619

Candice I did not get the sense that St. Andre had a complaint about the IETF but perhaps the SIMPLE WG. After all XMPP also falls under the IETF umbrella.

This started out as a discussion about whether SIP or XMPP. My main point was that SIP and XMPP co-exist and so that is the wrong question. A better question is whether SIMPLE or XMPP. I am leaning towards using XMPP to provide messaging and presence since it is more mature than SIMPLE. In reality this is not a problem since SIMPLE is not really deployed.

I have not had direct experience with either SIMPLE or XMPP but I do intend to try out the Jabber module in SER in the next few weeks.

-- Bill



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