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[John Heffner <>]

Interesting, nobody has complained about this before (and it's been
quite some time since the options moved!).  I'll try to remember to
fix this before putting out the next web100 release.

  -John


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Zach Retzlaff 
<>
 wrote:
> Thanks, Jeremy!  Found it!
>
> Networking Support ---> Networking Options ---> IP: Web100 networking 
> enhancements...
>
> So the only incorrect part in the documentation is the (supposed) first 
> level option category "Device Drivers  --->", but was enough to throw me 
> off.  I am now able to compile the kernel, so I'm going to proceed and 
> hopefully I will report back with good news
>
> Thanks, all!
>
>
> Zach Retzlaff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Palmer 
> [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:33 PM
> To: Zach Retzlaff
> Cc: 'Merlijn Hofstra'; 
> 
> Subject: Re: NDT Installation Assistance
>
> The documentation is inaccurate. The web100 menu item is in a slightly 
> different
> place now as I recall. I don't remember exactly where it is but its 
> somewhere
> under the network options.
>
> Zach Retzlaff wrote:
>> Merlin,
>>
>>
>>
>> Scratch my previous email before you spend any time on that one, I made
>> a mistake on my end.  Looks like the patch applied correctly this time,
>> however I still cannot locate the web100 options in the menuconfig where
>> the documentation says they should be.  Have you found that the
>> documentation is inaccurate, or did the patch fail without errors?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Zach Retzlaff
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Zach Retzlaff 
>> [mailto:]
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 3:07 PM
>> *To:* 'Merlijn Hofstra'
>> *Cc:* 
>> 
>> *Subject:* RE: NDT Installation Assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Merlijn,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just tried the patch with kernel 2.6.31.6, and the results aren't any
>> better.  The menuconfig won't even come up:
>>
>>
>>
>> [root@ndt
>>  linux-2.6.31.6]# make menuconfig
>>
>> Makefile:303: /usr/src/kernels/linux-2.6.31.6/scripts/Kbuild.include: No
>> such file or directory
>>
>> make: *** empty variable name.  Stop.
>>
>> make: *** [scripts_basic] Error 2
>>
>> [root@ndt
>>  linux-2.6.31.6]#
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Zach Retzlaff
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Zach Retzlaff 
>> [mailto:]
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 2:54 PM
>> *To:* 'Merlijn Hofstra'
>> *Cc:* 
>> 
>> *Subject:* RE: NDT Installation Assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Merlijn,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just hit [Enter] through the patch process this time, just to see what
>> would happen.  It looks like nothing was applied.  There is no "Device
>> Drivers  ---> Networking support  --->" category listed.  There is a
>> "Network device support" category but I don't think that's what I'm
>> looking for.  As for updating the kernel, I would prefer to use what the
>> RHEL team considers "stable" - although for this project I'm probably
>> going to have to relax my standards.  I will try downloading the latest
>> kernel source and see if I can patch that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Zach Retzlaff
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Merlijn Hofstra 
>> [mailto:]
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 2:30 PM
>> *To:* Zach Retzlaff
>> *Cc:* 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: NDT Installation Assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Zach,
>>
>> Those bits that fail on the kernel patching are pretty normal if your
>> kernel is already patched with other stuff (CentOS probably applies some
>> custom patchsets). Applying the EXTRAVERSION manually makes that reject
>> safe to ignore. The real questions however is do the web100 options show
>> up in menuconfig? And can the kernel be compiled after patching? (On a
>> side note - why not upgrade to a more recent kernel while you're in the
>> process of recompiling it anyway).
>>
>> The "File to Patch" question is merely for a Makefile, it can probably
>> be ignored if nothing important fails. And the kernel patches are very
>> much required to start the web100srv service.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Merlijn
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 21:12, Zach Retzlaff 
>> <
>> <mailto:>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Heather,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.  I purposefully didn't include much info to begin
>> with in case I was barking up the wrong tree.  I am more than happy to
>> provide any information that would help in troubleshooting the issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm running CentOS 5.4 with Linux kernel 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5.  The
>> command I am using, per the install doc, and the results are as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> [root@ndt
>>  2.6.18-164.6.1.el5-i686]# patch -p1 <
>> /root/ndt_dl/web100/web100-2.6.18-2.5.12-200609221010.patch
>>
>> patching file Makefile
>>
>> Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
>>
>> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej
>>
>> patching file Documentation/web100/locking.txt
>>
>> patching file Documentation/web100/proc_interface.txt
>>
>> patching file Documentation/web100/sysctl.txt
>>
>> patching file fs/proc/Makefile
>>
>> can't find file to patch at input line 219
>>
>> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
>>
>> The text leading up to this was:
>>
>> --------------------------
>>
>> |Index: linux-2.6-web100/fs/proc/root.c
>>
>> |===================================================================
>>
>> |RCS file: /home/web100/cvsroot/kern/linux-2.6-web100/fs/proc/root.c,v
>>
>> |retrieving revision 1.1.1.6
>>
>> |retrieving revision 1.8
>>
>> |diff -u -p -w -r1.1.1.6 -r1.8
>>
>> |--- linux-2.6-web100/fs/proc/root.c    22 Sep 2006 09:32:01 -0000
>> 1.1.1.6
>>
>> |+++ linux-2.6-web100/fs/proc/root.c    22 Sep 2006 13:00:23 -0000      1.8
>>
>> --------------------------
>>
>> File to patch:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> I did try modifying the EXTRAVERSION so that it now reads:
>>
>>
>>
>> EXTRAVERSION = -164.6.1.el5-web100
>>
>>
>>
>> ...as the install doc suggested, but that didn't make a difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know what file to specify at this point ("File to patch:").
>> Also, I was under the impression that the kernel patch is only meant to
>> improve performance, and didn't realize that the web100srv install would
>> fail outright if not applied.  Let me know what you suggest.  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Zach Retzlaff
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Heather L. Sanders 
>> [mailto:
>> <mailto:>]
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 1:13 PM
>> *To:* Zach Retzlaff
>> *Cc:* 
>> '
>>  
>> <mailto:>'
>> *Subject:* Re: NDT Installation Assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Zach,
>>
>> This is a pretty helpful group. But...the information you are providing
>> is a bit lacking.
>>
>> The kernel patch can fail in a number of ways.  What exactly happens
>> when you try to apply the patch?  Please post what commands you run to
>> issue the patch, then post the resulting output from your CentOS box.
>> Copy/Paste works the best for this.
>>
>> The NDT install will fail, until you have successfully built your kernel
>> with the patch and met all dependencies.
>> Heather Sanders.
>>
>> Zach Retzlaff wrote:
>>
>> NTD Users,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure the right way to go about this, so I apologize if I missed
>> something in the documentation.  I'm trying to get the NDT running on
>> CentOS 5.4 and I'm having a heck of a time.  The kernel patch fails, as
>> well as the web100srv and fakewww portions of the NDT install.  If
>> someone can offer assistance, or at least point me in the right
>> direction (i.e. user forums, etc.) that would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Zach Retzlaff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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