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  • From: Richard Frovarp <>
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  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Large scale template use
  • Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 23:55:59 +0000

Thank you. That will be helpful in getting everything setup.

On 4/23/19 2:37 PM, Hyzer, Chris wrote:
> Triggering templates was not possible with GSH but I made a patch that lets
> you do it. GSH needs to be run from a UI directory. You need patch:
> grouper_v2_4_0_ui_patch_23
> Hope this helps.
> Thanks
> Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> <> On Behalf Of Richard Frovarp
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 12:24 PM
> To: Mailing List <>
> Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Large scale template use
> Carey,
> Thanks, that helps out quite a bit. We were further discussing after I
> sent the message and realized that using Selenium with the template
> wizard wouldn't help us going forward with new apps. We had considered
> using WS. Most of what we need created would be by external systems,
> rather than by people. But in case we do have to hand create something
> to fix or change something we've screwed up prior, using the hooks looks
> to be quite nice. We can have our external system do the WS call to get
> the hook to fire. Given our deployment methods, updating hooks would
> also be cleaner that updating a large batch of WS calls in other systems.
> Thanks,
> Richard
> On 4/22/19 5:36 PM, Black, Carey M. wrote:
>> Richard,
>> If you are targeting a "big bang cutover" then I think you likely just
>> need to walk your "applications" and "create structures in Grouper" with
>> WebServices (WS) calls. And copy the memberships too.
>> The WebServices calls can do anything a user can do with the UI. (
>> Well, basic functions are all there. AKA : Create/update/delete: group,
>> folder, etc...)
>> I don't expect that a wizard could/would be triggered by a WS call.
>> But I could be wrong.
>> NOTE: If you are referring to
>> ( by "application template" ) then you could develop such a template for
>> user's to manually create new applications after conversion.
>> Or you could write UI hooks (REF:
>> ) too.
>> Example: A new folder is created "here" (or named "foo-*",
>> etc...) and you create sub structures, establish access controls, etc..
>> for the user.
>> Your choice between a "wizard" and "hooks" likely depends on your
>> taste/style/functionality needs.
>> IHMO:
>> A wizard would be for a "Ask a human questions and get
>> variable outputs/responses."
>> A Hook would be more for a "see 'X', then do 'Y'" kind of
>> responses. (NOTE: hooks can be triggered by UI, Web Services and/or
>> GSH[AKA API] events.
>> HTH.

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