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[Richard Frovarp <>]

Thank you. That will be helpful in getting everything setup.

On 4/23/19 2:37 PM, Hyzer, Chris wrote:
> Triggering templates was not possible with GSH but I made a patch that lets 
> you do it.  GSH needs to be run from a UI directory.  You need patch: 
> grouper_v2_4_0_ui_patch_23
>
> https://bugs.internet2.edu/jira/browse/GRP-2109
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> <> On Behalf Of Richard Frovarp
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 12:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Large scale template use
>
> Carey,
>
> Thanks, that helps out quite a bit. We were further discussing after I
> sent the message and realized that using Selenium with the template
> wizard wouldn't help us going forward with new apps. We had considered
> using WS. Most of what we need created would be by external systems,
> rather than by people. But in case we do have to hand create something
> to fix or change something we've screwed up prior, using the hooks looks
> to be quite nice. We can have our external system do the WS call to get
> the hook to fire. Given our deployment methods, updating hooks would
> also be cleaner that updating a large batch of WS calls in other systems.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> On 4/22/19 5:36 PM, Black, Carey M. wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> If you are targeting a "big bang cutover" then I think you likely just 
>> need to walk your "applications" and "create structures in Grouper" with 
>> WebServices (WS) calls. And copy the memberships too.
>>      The WebServices calls can do anything a user can do with the UI. ( 
>> Well, basic functions are all there. AKA : Create/update/delete: group, 
>> folder, etc...)
>>
>>      I don't expect that a wizard could/would be triggered by a WS call. 
>> But I could be wrong.
>>
>>
>> NOTE: If you are referring to 
>> https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+new+template+wizard
>>  ( by "application template" ) then you could develop such a template for 
>> user's to manually create new applications after conversion.
>>      Or you could write UI hooks (REF: 
>> https://spaces.at.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Hooks ) too.
>>              Example: A new folder is created "here" (or named "foo-*", 
>> etc...) and you create sub structures, establish access controls, etc.. 
>> for the user.
>>
>>       Your choice between a "wizard" and "hooks" likely depends on your 
>> taste/style/functionality needs.
>>      IHMO:
>>              A wizard would be for a "Ask a human questions and get 
>> variable outputs/responses."
>>              A Hook would be more for a "see 'X', then do 'Y'" kind of 
>> responses. (NOTE: hooks can be triggered by UI, Web Services and/or 
>> GSH[AKA API] events.
>>
>> HTH.
>>