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  • From: "Black, Carey M." <>
  • To: Richard Frovarp <>, " Mailing List" <>
  • Subject: RE: [grouper-users] Large scale template use
  • Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:36:15 +0000


If you are targeting a "big bang cutover" then I think you likely just need
to walk your "applications" and "create structures in Grouper" with
WebServices (WS) calls. And copy the memberships too.
The WebServices calls can do anything a user can do with the UI. (
Well, basic functions are all there. AKA : Create/update/delete: group,
folder, etc...)

I don't expect that a wizard could/would be triggered by a WS call.
But I could be wrong.

NOTE: If you are referring to (
by "application template" ) then you could develop such a template for user's
to manually create new applications after conversion.
Or you could write UI hooks (REF: ) too.
Example: A new folder is created "here" (or named "foo-*",
etc...) and you create sub structures, establish access controls, etc.. for
the user.

Your choice between a "wizard" and "hooks" likely depends on your
taste/style/functionality needs.
A wizard would be for a "Ask a human questions and get
variable outputs/responses."
A Hook would be more for a "see 'X', then do 'Y'" kind of
responses. (NOTE: hooks can be triggered by UI, Web Services and/or GSH[AKA
API] events.


Carey Matthew

-----Original Message-----
<> On Behalf Of Richard Frovarp
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:42 PM
To: Mailing List <>
Subject: [grouper-users] Large scale template use

We're spinning up use Grouper to replace our custom engineered solution.
In our old system we have about 1,900 "apps" we would need to import
into the system. We want to do something very similar to the application
template in the Grouper UI. Is there a way to trigger that templating
through web services or GSH? Once we get the folder structure with
permissions is there, it will be easy for us to use either gsh or web
services to populate the groups and updater groups.

If we have to, we can make Selenium do it, but looking to see if there
is a more official / less brittle method.



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