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  • From: Richard Frovarp <>
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  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] Large scale template use
  • Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:24:19 +0000


Thanks, that helps out quite a bit. We were further discussing after I
sent the message and realized that using Selenium with the template
wizard wouldn't help us going forward with new apps. We had considered
using WS. Most of what we need created would be by external systems,
rather than by people. But in case we do have to hand create something
to fix or change something we've screwed up prior, using the hooks looks
to be quite nice. We can have our external system do the WS call to get
the hook to fire. Given our deployment methods, updating hooks would
also be cleaner that updating a large batch of WS calls in other systems.


On 4/22/19 5:36 PM, Black, Carey M. wrote:
> Richard,
> If you are targeting a "big bang cutover" then I think you likely just need
> to walk your "applications" and "create structures in Grouper" with
> WebServices (WS) calls. And copy the memberships too.
> The WebServices calls can do anything a user can do with the UI. (
> Well, basic functions are all there. AKA : Create/update/delete: group,
> folder, etc...)
> I don't expect that a wizard could/would be triggered by a WS call.
> But I could be wrong.
> NOTE: If you are referring to
> ( by "application template" ) then you could develop such a template for
> user's to manually create new applications after conversion.
> Or you could write UI hooks (REF:
> ) too.
> Example: A new folder is created "here" (or named "foo-*",
> etc...) and you create sub structures, establish access controls, etc.. for
> the user.
> Your choice between a "wizard" and "hooks" likely depends on your
> taste/style/functionality needs.
> A wizard would be for a "Ask a human questions and get
> variable outputs/responses."
> A Hook would be more for a "see 'X', then do 'Y'" kind of
> responses. (NOTE: hooks can be triggered by UI, Web Services and/or GSH[AKA
> API] events.
> HTH.

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