Presence and IntComm WG

["Callahan, Tim" <>]

Thanks for the offer Jesse, and it would be great if you can join us.  Your 
work has always been ahead of the curve, and I value your input - perhaps 
this will yield a good project for us to collaborate on.  
Before requesting an introduction, we (PIC) should build a conversation list 
to make it worth his time (and ours.)  I've prompted a question/topic list in 
the invite for today's conference call. We can move forward once we have 
enough material.
-Tim

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 On Behalf Of Jesse Thompson
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Subject: Re: [wg-pic] RE: Google opening up video groupchat specs (surprise, 
it's XMPP based!)

I have Justin in my chat roster, and he's responded to my previous IMs 
and Emails regarding interoperability with Google Talk as well as my 
queries regarding the impact of WebRTC.

I've never attended one of your WG-PIC conference calls, but I would be 
willing to do so, and I can see if Justin is willing.

Jesse Thompson
UW-Madison

On 7/6/11 4:46 PM, Callahan, Tim wrote:
> Other relevant news this week from Justin's blog:
>
> Google Talk now supports XMPP Jingle
> http://juberti.blogspot.com/
> "we've just finished updating Google Talk and its related services to speak 
> XMPP's Jingle call signaling protocol."
> ...
> The announcement:
> "We are pleased to announce that we have launched support for Jingle
> XEP-166 and XEP-167 for Google Talk calls to and from Gmail, iGoogle,
> and Orkut. We have also added the same level of support to libjingle
> (http://code.google.com/p/libjingle), which is used by many native
> clients. From this point on, it will be our primary signalling
> protocol, and the old protocol will only remain for backwards
> compatibility."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Callahan, Tim
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:38 PM
> To: 
> 
> Cc: Scott Brim; Callahan, Tim
> Subject: Google opening up video groupchat specs (surprise, it's XMPP 
> based!)
>
> Is interoperability with Google's video groupchat on the horizon? Probably 
> so (see article below)... they let it slip that it's XMPP/Jingle based, so 
> it may actually be interoperable with things WE do.  This could fit into 
> some of the work we've proposed/discussed, especially with the Internet2 
> Commons.
> Has anyone had any experience with Hangouts / have you attempted 
> interoperability? (Does anyone know Justin Uberti? perhaps we can invite 
> him to one of the calls.)
> -Tim
>
> Google plans to open Hangouts for interoperability:
> http://gigaom.com/video/google-plus-hangouts-interoperability/
> "Hangouts, the group video chat component of Google Plus that everyone's 
> been raving about, could eventually be usable with other video chat clients 
> and services as well. Google Real-time Communications Tech Lead Justin 
> Uberti wrote this weekend on his blog that the company plans to publish the 
> specifications necessary to interoperate with Hangouts."
> ...
> "At a high level, it's based on XMPP MUC (XEP-0045) and Jingle 
> (XEP-0166/167), with some other enhancements needed to handle our 
> architecture."
>
> Also:
> Justin's Hangouts Blog
> http://juberti.blogspot.com/2011/07/hangouts-mailbag.html
>