wg-multicast - Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast
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- From: Tristan Rhodes <>
- To: David Farmer <>
- Cc: Michael H Lambert <>, Network Technical Advisory Committee <>, John Kristoff <>, wg-multicast <>, Jon Buerge <>, Colin Murphy <>, Rich Ingram <>
- Subject: Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast
- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:17:34 -0600
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2. Within your own network, are you currently doing Anycast RP (same IP address on multiple routers) with MDSP? Is that not a recommended design?
Tristan Rhodes
Network Engineer
Network Engineer
Weber State University
801.626.8549On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:13 PM, David Farmer <> wrote:
We are at the beginning of a major equipment replacement/upgrade cycle for campus. As part of that I have been thinking about what the appropriate support of interdomain multicast should be. While I haven't come to a final conclusions yet, here is my current thinking.1. Primary goal of deprecating MSDP, and therefore interdomain IPv4 ASM multicast. MSDP is fragile and honestly it's a hack.2. Keep IPv4 ASM multicast locally, on campus, maybe between campuses in the University system, through use of a common RP, no MSDP.3. Keep IPv4 SSM interdomain multicast4. Focus efforts on supporting IPv6 interdomain multicast, SSM and embedded-RP5. Keep IPv4 and IPv6 BGP multicast NLRIs6. Primarily PIM sparse mode, maybe using PIM-bidir for better scalingWhat do others think?ThanksOn Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Michael H Lambert <> wrote:The following was sent by John Kristoff (cc'ed) to the Multicast WG mailing list (yes, the list still exists):
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: John Kristoff <>
> Subject: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast
> Date: 9 August 2016 at 18:09:37 EDT
> To: "" <>
> Reply-To:Does anyone else think it might be time to reflect on the future of interdomain multicast in the backbone?
>
>> show msdp
> MSDP instance is not running
>
>> show route table ?
> Possible completions:
> <table> Name of routing table
> inet.0
> inet.1
> inet6.0
> inet6.1
>>
>
> It was a fun ride for a time, but it now joins the dustbin of dead
> technologies in the back of my brain. Token Ring, ISDN, NetWare, ...,
> welcome you to the club, may you rest in peace.
>
> John
Michael
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- AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, John Kristoff, 08/09/2016
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- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, John Kristoff, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Zenon Mousmoulas, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, David Farmer, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Bruce Curtis, 08/11/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Michael H Lambert, 08/11/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Bruce Curtis, 08/11/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, John Kristoff, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Michael H Lambert, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, David Farmer, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Zenon Mousmoulas, 08/10/2016
- Re: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, John Kristoff, 08/10/2016
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- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, David Farmer, 08/10/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Tristan Rhodes, 08/10/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, David Farmer, 08/10/2016
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- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Alan Whinery, 08/10/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Leonard Giuliano, 08/17/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Havard Eidnes, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Garret Peirce, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Brent Draney, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Leonard Giuliano, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Havard Eidnes, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Dan Pritts, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Dan Pritts, 08/18/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Leonard Giuliano, 08/17/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Alan Whinery, 08/10/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Tristan Rhodes, 08/10/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, David Farmer, 08/10/2016
- Re: [NTAC] Fwd: AS 20130 has turned off interdomain IP multicast, Bill Owens, 08/10/2016
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