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Re: Whither multicast?


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  • From: Bill Owens <>
  • To: Scott Brown <>
  • Cc: ,
  • Subject: Re: Whither multicast?
  • Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:12:09 -0500

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 03:03:48PM -0500, Scott Brown wrote:
> Just a quick comment on what is happening in the Internet at large, that
> you may be interested in.
> It is about content, but also about technologies coming together at the
> same time.
> Many Telco's actually have IPTV services running over Native Multicast,
> where they have implemented QOS on their last mile to create an
> environment for it. As you mention this is private and internal to
> footprint. However it is now beginning to take shape over the broadband
> side. You can see for instance using a combination of Native and AMT
> multicast that AT&T has deployed public Multicast support. Octoshape, the
> company I work for facilitates the streaming delivery for things like
> CNN.com Live, and NBA League pass over these broadband unmanaged
> Multicast enabled infrastructures.
> While it is true, it has spent many years in the dark, I believe it is
> quickly moving the opposite direction.
> There is a lot of reading material about it here if you are interested:
> http://www.octoshape.com/showcase/juniper-openlab-multicast/

I'd heard about Octoshape a few years ago, and it's an interesting
application of a technology that I never thought would have any legs (AMT).
But I'm often wrong about predicting the adoption of new technologies - I
proselytized native multicast for many years ;) I didn't think that it
depended in any way on native multicast, though. Are you saying that these
networks are extending native multicast out to the edge equipment, or that
they're using it internally and letting Octoshape handle the last part of the
path? And are they using multicast intra- or inter-domain? I've heard of
streaming providers using it within their own networks, but not allowing it
to leave their boundaries.

Bill.

PS - also, does Octoshape have an IPv6 story? I found something on your
website, but it was from June 2006. . .





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