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RE: how to make this work?


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  • From: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" <>
  • To: "Marshall Eubanks" <>, "David Farmer" <>
  • Cc: "wg-multicast List" <>, "Charley Kline" <>, "debbie Fligor" <>
  • Subject: RE: how to make this work?
  • Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:28:17 -0800
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Marshall, David,

> > Are you aware of implementations other that Cisco and Juniper?
>
> I believe that Alcatel has one (this came out at the last IETF).

Indeed. Alcatel-Lucent has supported mvpn in their TimOS for a couple of
years now. Wim, from Alcatel, has been added as an author to the below
draft and we'll have an update soon.

mike

> I did not point you to the latest version, for which I apologize.
> Here it is :
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ycai-mboned-mvpn-pim-deploy-00.txt
>
> >
> > Personally, it would be really nice if some of this
> actually made it
> > from Drafts to even just Informational RFCs.
> >
> > Others,
> >
> > If you are interested in mVPN you should read this draft
> and many of
> > the references in it.
> >
> > FYI, for the record, we implemented our mVPNs with PIM-SSM for the P
>
> PIM-SSM or PIM-SM ?
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> > network, AKA the default-MDT and data-MDT or MI-PSMI and
> S-PMSI. Our
> > Border Routers are the RP for the "customer" PIM-SM and connect the
> > mVPNs to each other and the Internet.
> >
> > If RFCs are not your style, maybe try this;
> >
> >
> http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/searchNetworking/Downloads/MPLS
> > ch7.pdf
> >
> >
> > On 1 Feb 2008 Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> >
> >> Have you talked to your vendor ? Are you aware of the two
> flavors of
> >> MPLS multicast ?
> >>
> >> This draft might be useful if you are doing PIM MPLS Multicast :
> >>
> >> http://merlot.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ycai-mboned-mvpn-deploy-00
> >>
> >> If it _is_ useful to you (or, even if it isn't), please
> let me know,
> >> as we still haven't decided whether or not to make an
> official draft
> >> or not.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Marshall
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:00 PM, debbie fligor wrote:
> >>
> >>> We're doing some planning for our next-generation campus core
> >>> network. We're planning on using VRFs to provide some specialty
> >>> services (like a high-speed research network that
> bypasses the exit
> >>> firewalls).
> >>>
> >>> Here's a very simplified version of what we're thinking
> it will look
> >>> like:
> >>>
> >>> <mcast-core6.jpg>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and an ascii version for those that don't do inline jpegs:
> >>>
> >>> vrf blue net 3 --- (dist router) -- (core router) -- (dist router)
> >>> --- vrf blue net 4
> >>> / /
> >>> vrf red net 1 ----/ vrf red net 2/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We want to be sure that Intra-VRF multicast (eg. from net
> 3 to net
> >>> 4, all in the "blue" vrf) will work if the links between the dist
> >>> routers and core routers are MPLS based. We're confident we can
> >>> make it work if the links between the core and dist
> routers are L2
> >>> and we use VRF-lite, but we are interested in considering MPLS
> >>> instead.
> >>>
> >>> We're assuming we'll be able to make the Inter VRF
> multicast work,
> >>> even if it's a the other side of our exit, by treating them as L3
> >>> peerings.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So if you've done something like this, how did you do it?
> So far it
> >>> looks like we'd have to run BGP as a core routing protocol and
> >>> exchange NLRIs with MBGP, if that's even defined over
> MPLS (I don't
> >>> think the standard for that is done, info on that is also
> >>> appreciated). We're not sure BGP makes an ideal core routing
> >>> protocol for a campus.
> >>>
> >>> We're especially interested in hearing how you have made
> something
> >>> like this work (or not!) on Cisco 6500's and Juniper MX-480 or
> >>> MX-960. Anything you've done with other vendor's gear that you
> >>> think might be insightful is also appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> -debbie
> >>> Debbie Fligor, n9dn Network Engineer, CITES, Univ. of Il
> >>> email:
> >>>
> >>>
> <http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/fligor>
> >>> "My turn." -River Tam
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
>
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