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Re: how to make this work?


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  • From: David Sinn <>
  • To: David Farmer <>
  • Cc: debbie fligor <>, wg-multicast List <>, Charley Kline <>
  • Subject: Re: how to make this work?
  • Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:28:41 -0800

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Juniper uses the same draft as Cisco does for their mVPN solution, so the concepts are the same that Dave presents here, just you need a tunnel PIC everywhere... They are supposed to interoperate, but require you make some default changes on the Juniper side to make it work. I never got it to, so our deployments are ships in the night...

David

On Feb 1, 2008, at 11:15 AM, David Farmer wrote:

I assume you are asking how to make multicast work in this situation.

You need a mVPN (multicastVPN) solution. We have Cisco's solution
working. I believe Juniper has a solution. I haven't heard of anyone else
having a mVPN solution, but then I haven't looked lately either.

Pointer to Cisco's Design Guide for mVPN

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk828/tech_digest09186a00801a64a3.html

This is done with a Multicast GRE Encapsulation rather than MPLS. Also,
you have restriction on interVRF redistribution for Unicast traffic if you do
this.

The easiest way to think about it is; think of your blue and red VRFs as
completely separate networks made up of separate routers. If you want to
connect the blue and red networks to each other and the Internet you need
to add a separate external router. This router is a CE to both the blue and
red networks. Further, this CE router needs to be the route to the Internet
for the red and blue networks, and the route between them. Because, with
VRFs you don't have separate unicast and multicast tables you need to use
the Unicast table for your Multicast, at least for now, this may change in the
future.

For our design we have a separate external CE-Border routers interconnect
to the VRFs using CE-EBGP, the MPLS Cloud is AS65217 and the Border
routers are AS217 access to the Internet is through the global route table of
the Border Routers, an internal-border between VRFs is through a separate
internal-border VRF on the Border Routers.

I suggest liberal application of your favorite alcoholic beverage, keep
repeating, until it all starts to makes sense. :)

On 1 Feb 2008 debbie fligor wrote:

We're doing some planning for our next-generation campus core
network. We're planning on using VRFs to provide some specialty
services (like a high-speed research network that bypasses the exit
firewalls).

Here's a very simplified version of what we're thinking it will look
like:





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