wg-multicast - Re: Joint Techs HD Multicast
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- From: Dave Devereaux-Weber <>
- To: Joel Jaeggli <>
- Cc: Richard Mavrogeanes <>, Frank Fulchiero <>, "Todd Needham (RESEARCH)" <>, Ben Fineman <>, Research Channel Working Group <>, wg-multicast <>
- Subject: Re: Joint Techs HD Multicast
- Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:17:57 -0500
Joel,
Regarding licensing the MPEG-2 portfolio...
I explored that with the MPEG-LA. The MPEG-2 contracts include a "most favorable terms" clause. If the University of Wisconsin or Educause or Internet2 were to negotiate a lower cost for MPEG-2, all the other existing MPEG-2 licensees would be able to drop back to that rate. For that reason, MPEG-LA offers no educational discount, bulk discount, or fee cap available for MPEG-2 licenses. The rate is $2.50 per user.
Licensing for MPEG-4 and MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264) is different. The popular players (Windows Media, Quicktime, Real) were able to negotiate MPEG-4 and H.264 contracts at terms which they found acceptable, which permitted them to freely distribute their respective products with MPEG-4 and H.264 codecs included. The player with those codecs is free to the user.
The state of the art for HD codecs is improving, and I hope to be able to encode multicast 1080i in H.264 in the near future. I'm only renting the MPEG encoder, and I hope that there are good HD codecs capable of 1080 lines in VC-1 or H.264 soon.
Regarding Todd's comment about "average user". The Joint Techs user community is different than the population as a whole. The JT community includes network techs for research and education institutions and network techs for the Energy Sciences network. While Microsoft Windows enjoys a very large market share of all computer users, Windows is used by a lower share of the JT community. Microsoft made a good attempt to open up Windows Media across *nix and Apple platforms by opening up the source of WM (called VC-1 in open source), support for VC-1 is lower on the Apple (in the case of Intel-based Macs) and 'nix.
Ironically, VLC does incorporate a codec for VC-1, and, hypothetically, using VLC to play a VC-1 stream is OK, while using VLC to play an MPEG-2 stream has licensing issues.
Dave
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