wg-multicast - Re: IPV6 Multicast
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- From: Bob Riddle <>
- To: Joel Jaeggli <>
- Cc: , John Lyons <>,
- Subject: Re: IPV6 Multicast
- Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:41:37 -0400
If SSM were more widely deployed, would that help us "break out" of
this cycle of dependency? Joel Jaeggli wrote: wrote:<snip> ... </snip> If it's not the people neither the economics that made you think that it's flawed, I would be very interested to know how and why you came to that conclusion.Using a different protocol for signaling on the edge and between routers built a cycle of dependency into the development that has yet to be broken out of. I don't have a better idea that's workable. Using client signaling to build state in the network trades, one expense (delivering multiple copies of the same packets) for another (maintaining the distribution tree). It may be the case that for the Internet as a whole, that trade off isn't worth it. Now, link-local multicast is obviously a success (was before IP), and there applications for intra-domain and even inter-domain multicast that are quite successful though limited in scope, but the Internet as a whole has resisted the application of technologies that have to build up additional state on the path between arbitrary endpoints (not just multicast, think QOS)... To channel Vern Schryver for a moment, the highest point of utility for inter-domain multicast was probably when it was still just a overlay network between consenting endpoints.Hoerdt MickaelI concluded a long time ago that Steve Deering's original premise, which was to regain the functionality (flooding) lost when Ethernets became routed, was probably a flawed one (That I spent 11 years of my life working on it is another); But it's the people and the economics that have been persistent barriers to deployment not the technology, however flawed it may be. -- ------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli () GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2 |
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, (continued)
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Bill Owens, 05/20/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Bill Owens, 05/21/2006
- RE: IPV6 Multicast, Richard Mavrogeanes, 05/20/2006
- RE: IPV6 Multicast, Leonard Giuliano, 05/22/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Dan Pritts, 05/22/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, John Lyons, 05/22/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Joel Jaeggli, 05/22/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Dan Pritts, 05/22/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, hoerdt, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Joel Jaeggli, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Bob Riddle, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Joel Jaeggli, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, John Lyons, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Tim Chown, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, John Lyons, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Tim Chown, 05/23/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Joel Jaeggli, 05/22/2006
- RE: IPV6 Multicast, Leonard Giuliano, 05/22/2006
- RE: IPV6 Multicast, Richard Mavrogeanes, 05/22/2006
- Re: IPV6 Multicast, Brent Draney, 05/22/2006
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