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  • From: Roy Hockett <>
  • To: "Lucy E. Lynch" <>
  • Cc: Marshall Eubanks <>,
  • Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
  • Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:48:19 -0400
  • Organization: University of Michigan
I have stopped the server here at Interop, and I have requested Chris to
stop the server at Florida that we were using as a demo. Please let me
know if you continue to see problems.

Thanks,
-Roy

"Lucy E. Lynch" wrote:
>
> Marshall -
>
> Each group seems to have consecutive timestamps - 1 minute
> apart - up to about 15 session announcements - I'd be happy to
> tar up a batch and send them if you like -
>
> I only see 4 actual source addressess:
>
> o=- 90049249 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> s=UF-ILABS-test
> i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>
> o=- 72345499 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
> s=Cool Commercials.mpg
> i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>
> o=- 75052593 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
> s=J & J Test.mpg
> i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>
> o=- 80720546 0 IN IP4 45.240.10.136
> s=HD-underwater.mpg
> i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>
> Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> Computing Center University of Oregon
>
> (541) 346-1774
> Cell: (541) 912-7998
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
> > >Marshall -
> > >
> >
> > Lucy;
> >
> > I see none of these in our cache.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > >these are the sessions I see today:
> > >
> > >345271ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >34a2107d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >35a300bd:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >38087d27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >38199c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >38796c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >50094c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >50381cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >80a8abc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >80a8da51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >80c89ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >88a89a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >88d85b51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >90984c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >90a8ea71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >90a8fa01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >90a98d37:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >90f84a11:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >9432007d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >98a8ead1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >98a8faa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >9d53301d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >a0a81a01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >a0c80ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >a55381ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >a8486c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >a8595c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >a8a8eb31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >a8b87aa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >a8d8da31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >ac22600d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >ac32005d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >b0b86a51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >b0c8eaf1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >b8b86a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >b8b87bc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >b8d82a41:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >c0491d17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >c0588cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >c0591c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >c42401d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >ca2100d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >dc62307d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >dc7221ed:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >ddf3102d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >e412505d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >e462e08d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >e8396c17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >e8a87a71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> > >f0b81a91:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> > >f8a92c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >
> > >and its not so much that they're bogus or excessive - but
> > >rather mysterious (no good contact info etc.) and broken ...
> > >
> > >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > >Computing Center University of Oregon
> > >
> > > (541) 346-1774
> > >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Lucy;
> > >>
> > >> I am seeing just one :
> > >>
> > >> multicasttech-2>show ip sdr "UF-ILABS-test"
> > >> SDR Cache - 250 entries
> > >> Session Name: UF-ILABS-test
> > >> Description: c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >> Group: 226.1.1.3, ttl: 64, Contiguous allocation: 1
> > >> Uptime: 06:44:45, Last Heard: 00:00:01
> > >> Announcement source: 128.227.74.138, destination: 224.2.127.254
> > >> Created by: - 49217374 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> > >> Phone number:
> > >> Email:
> > >> URL:
> > >> Media: video 2010 UDP 0
> > >> Media: audio 2010 UDP 0
> > >> multicasttech-2>
> > >>
> > >> By bogus SDP standards, this hardly seems excessive.
> > >>
> > >> Marshall
> > >>
> > >> >All -
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm seeing a number of bogus sap announcements - which seem to
> > >> >be streamrider/2netFX related - the current crop are coming from UF,
> > >> >but
> >
> > >> >there have been persistant listings from a jnj.com machine as well
> > >> >(see below). Can anyone shed light on the ThunderAssets effort -
> > >> >and why it seems to generate so many bogus entries ???
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks -
> > >> >
> > >> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > >> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> > >> >
> > >> > (541) 346-1774
> > >> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >8909ddf7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >89195c67:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >89e9aca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >a159bc77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >a1695ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >b1e9ac37:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >b929ccd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >b9396c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >c9691c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >c9796dd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >d139ec77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >d1494ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >e1097c17:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >e1f90c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >
> > >> >cat 8909ddf7
> > >> >n=2162379402 2162379402 1000161161 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none
> > >> >none
> >
> > >>
> > >> >noauth noenc notset notset
> > >> >k=
> > >> >v=0
> > >> >o=- 32937999 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> > >> >s=UF-ILABS-test
> > >> >i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > >> >a=packetformat:RTP
> > >> >a=packetsize:8096
> > >> >a=mux:m2t
> > >> >a=x-sesid:21
> > >> >a=x-chanid:35
> > >> >a=x-chan:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> > >> >a=x-groupid:0
> > >> >a=x-group:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> > >> >a=x-hd:1
> > >> >a=x-server:netiq
> > >> >m=video 2010 UDP 0
> > >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> > >> >m=audio 2010 UDP 0
> > >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> > >> >
> > >> >mtrace 128.227.74.138 226.1.1.3
> > >> >Mtrace from 128.227.74.138 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.3
> > >> >Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
> > >> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > >> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > >> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> > >> >thresh^ 32
> > >> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> >Reached RP/Core
> > >> > -8 * * a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) PIM
> > >> > thresh^
> > 0
> > >>
> > >> >Reached RP/Core
> > >> > -9 * * * * ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) didn't
> > >> > respond
> >
> > >>
> > >> >-10 * * *
> > >> >-11 * * *
> > >> >-12 * * * ...giving up
> > >> >Round trip time 76 ms; total ttl of 38 required.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Results after 43 seconds:
> > >> >
> > >> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For
> > >> > Traffic
> >
> > >>
> > >> >From
> > >> > * * * 128.223.214.23 Packet 128.227.74.138 To
> > >> > 226.1.1.3
> >
> > >> > v __/ rtt 79 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> > >> >128.227.254.176 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu is the previous hop
> > >> > v ^
> > >> >128.227.254.187
> > >> >192.80.53.46 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> > >> > v ^ ttl 2 1755 pps -17872/72063=1.2x1675 pps
> > >> >192.80.53.45
> > >> >198.32.8.42 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> > >> > v ^ ttl 3 763 pps 89935/89935=100%2091 pps
> > >> >198.32.8.41
> > >> >198.32.8.6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu
> > >> > v ^ ttl 4 3 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >198.32.8.5
> > >> >198.32.8.14 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu
> > >> > v ^ ttl 5 4084 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >198.32.8.13
> > >> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net
> > >> > v ^ ttl 6 701 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >198.32.163.13
> > >> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> > >> > v ^ ttl 38 747 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >198.32.163.2
> > >> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> > >> > v ^ ttl 38 805 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >128.223.2.102
> > >> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> > >> > v \__ ttl 38 178 pps ?/0 0 pps
> > >> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> > >> > Receiver Query Source
> > >> >
> > >> > traceroute to 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> > >> >packets
> > >> > 1 128.223.214.3 (128.223.214.3) 1.223 ms 9.962 ms 1.241 ms
> > >> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 1.524 ms 0.882 ms 1.155 ms
> > >> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.223 ms
> > >> > 1.686
> > ms
> > >>
> > >> >1.015 ms
> > >> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.897 ms 36.000 ms
> > >> >33.320 ms
> > >> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 43.391 ms 43.927 ms
> > >> >45.767 ms
> > >> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 53.903 ms 52.423 ms
> > >> > 52.500
> >
> > >>
> > >> >ms
> > >> > 7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) 62.701 ms 63.266 ms
> > >> >62.245 ms
> > >> > 8 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) 71.900 ms
> > >> > 72.386
> >
> > >> >ms 81.328 ms
> > >> > 9 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) 75.205 ms 72.630
> > >> > ms
> >
> > >> >72.843 ms
> > >> >10 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138) 74.012 ms 72.482 ms 73.697 ms
> > >> >
> > >> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >> >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
> > >> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
> > >> ><>
> > >> >To:
> > >> >joe@oregon
> > >> >Subject: leaky hdtv stuff
> > >> >
> > >> >FYI
> > >> >
> > >> >134f68cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >1b67407b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >231f00db:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >2b5f18eb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >3367d09b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >6b2fd0bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >93c7286b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >bc7b88b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >c32f406b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >cb3fb8bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >d36768cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >e357693b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >ebd768fb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >f33f289b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >fb47d0ab:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >
> > >> >n=2789016121 2789016121 999893232 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none
> > >> >none
> >
> > >> >noauth noenc notset notset
> > >> >k=
> > >> >v=0
> > >> >o=- 1278452734 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
> > >> >s=HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > >> >a=packetformat:RTP
> > >> >a=packetsize:8096
> > >> >a=mux:m2t
> > >> >a=x-sesid:7
> > >> >a=x-chanid:1
> > >> >a=x-chan:2netTV-01
> > >> >a=x-groupid:0
> > >> >a=x-group:2netTV-01
> > >> >a=x-hd:1
> > >> >a=x-server:sam-livehdtv
> > >> >m=video 5010 UDP 0
> > >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> > >> >m=audio 5010 UDP 0
> > >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> > >> >
> > >> >traceroute to 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> > >> > 1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) 3.022 ms 20.446 ms 7.906
> > >> > ms
> >
> > >> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 2.623 ms 0.794 ms 0.797 ms
> > >> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.287 ms
> > >> > 2.556
> > ms
> > >>
> > >> >3.817 ms
> > >> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.573 ms 34.455 ms
> > >> >33.703 ms
> > >> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 44.325 ms 44.530 ms
> > >> >43.426 ms
> > >> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 52.281 ms 52.171 ms
> > >> > 52.885
> >
> > >>
> > >> >ms
> > >> > 7 clev-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.26) 61.330 ms 59.077 ms
> > >> >58.159 ms
> > >> > 8 nycm-clev.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.30) 74.374 ms 73.917 ms
> > >> >70.383 ms
> > >> > 9 wash-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.45) 75.030 ms 75.175 ms
> > >> >75.053 ms
> > >> >10 vbns-abilene.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.10) 79.500 ms 77.118
> > >> >ms
> >
> > >> >76.428 ms
> > >> >11 jn1-so7-0-0-1.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.137) 81.424 ms 82.221 ms
> > >> >82.010 ms
> > >> >12 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) 83.476 ms 83.930 ms 83.217
> > >> >ms
> >
> > >> >13 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 83.667 ms 83.554 ms 86.410 ms
> > >> >14 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 84.491 ms 84.602 ms 83.482 ms
> > >> >
> > >> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.1
> > >> >Querying full reverse path...
> > >> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > >> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > >> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> > >> >thresh^ 32
> > >> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM thresh^ 0
> > >> > Reached
> >
> > >> >RP/Core
> > >> >Round trip time 154 ms; total ttl of 34 required.
> > >> >
> > >> >Waiting to accumulate statistics...Results after 9 seconds:
> > >> >
> > >> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For
> > >> > Traffic
> >
> > >>
> > >> >From
> > >> > * * * 224.0.1.32 Packet 166.61.2.57 To 226.1.1.1
> > >> > v __/ rtt 40 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> > >> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net Reached RP/Core
> > >> > v ^ ttl 2 664 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >198.32.163.13
> > >> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> > >> > v ^ ttl 34 858 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >198.32.163.2
> > >> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> > >> > v ^ ttl 34 778 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > >> >128.223.2.102
> > >> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> > >> > v \__ ttl 34 793 pps ?/0 0 pps
> > >> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> > >> > Receiver Query Source
> > >> >
> > >> >mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics
> > >> >printed
> >
> > >> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 0.0.0.0
> > >> >Querying full reverse path...
> > >> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > >> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > >> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> > >> >thresh^ 32
> > >> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > >> > -7 jn1-at1-1-0-2008.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.13) PIM thresh^ 1
> > >> > -8 jn1-so7-0-0-0.nor.vbns.net (204.147.136.147) PIM thresh^ 1
> > >> > -9 jn1-so7-0-0-0.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.133) PIM thresh^ 1
> > >> >-10 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) PIM/Static thresh^ 0
> > >> >-11 ? (166.61.2.3) PIM thresh^ 0
> > >> >-12 ? (166.61.2.57)
> > >> >Round trip time 202 ms; total ttl of 41 required.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid2.atr.jnj.com.html
> >
> > >>
> > >> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid3.atr.jnj.com.html
> >
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >using this stuff:
> > >> >
> > >> >http://www.2netfx.com/stream.htm
> > >> >http://www.2netfx.com/press/2netfx_i2.htm
> > >> >
> > >> >part of the HDTV crowd ???
> > >> >
> > >> >guy I've contacted several times at mci -
> > >> >
> > >> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
> > >> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
> > >> ><>
> > >> >To: Andy Lenviel
> > >> ><>
> > >> >Subject: RE: leaky sessions -
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks, just out of curiosity, why do I see Johnson & Johnson
> > >> >announces via I2 based routes?
> > >> >
> > >> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > >> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> > >> >
> > >> > (541) 346-1774
> > >> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andy Lenviel wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> hello lucy,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> i've contacted johnson & johnson. they are looking into the issue.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > >> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> > >> >
> > >> > (541) 346-1774
> > >> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Marshall Eubanks
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Marshall Eubanks
> >
> >
> >


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