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  • From: "Marshall Eubanks" <>
  • To: "Lucy E. Lynch" <>, Marshall Eubanks <>, <>
  • Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
  • Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:26:45 -0400
>Marshall -
>

Lucy;

I see none of these in our cache.

Marshall

>these are the sessions I see today:
>
>345271ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>34a2107d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>35a300bd:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>38087d27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>38199c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>38796c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>50094c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>50381cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>80a8abc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>80a8da51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>80c89ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>88a89a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>88d85b51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>90984c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>90a8ea71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>90a8fa01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>90a98d37:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>90f84a11:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>9432007d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>98a8ead1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>98a8faa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>9d53301d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>a0a81a01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>a0c80ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>a55381ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>a8486c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>a8595c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>a8a8eb31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>a8b87aa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>a8d8da31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>ac22600d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>ac32005d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>b0b86a51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>b0c8eaf1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>b8b86a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>b8b87bc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>b8d82a41:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>c0491d17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>c0588cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>c0591c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>c42401d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>ca2100d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>dc62307d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>dc7221ed:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>ddf3102d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>e412505d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>e462e08d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
>e8396c17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>e8a87a71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
>f0b81a91:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
>f8a92c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>
>and its not so much that they're bogus or excessive - but
>rather mysterious (no good contact info etc.) and broken ...
>
>Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
>Computing Center University of Oregon
>
> (541) 346-1774
>Cell: (541) 912-7998
>
>
>On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
>> Hi Lucy;
>>
>> I am seeing just one :
>>
>> multicasttech-2>show ip sdr "UF-ILABS-test"
>> SDR Cache - 250 entries
>> Session Name: UF-ILABS-test
>> Description: c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>> Group: 226.1.1.3, ttl: 64, Contiguous allocation: 1
>> Uptime: 06:44:45, Last Heard: 00:00:01
>> Announcement source: 128.227.74.138, destination: 224.2.127.254
>> Created by: - 49217374 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
>> Phone number:
>> Email:
>> URL:
>> Media: video 2010 UDP 0
>> Media: audio 2010 UDP 0
>> multicasttech-2>
>>
>> By bogus SDP standards, this hardly seems excessive.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> >All -
>> >
>> >I'm seeing a number of bogus sap announcements - which seem to
>> >be streamrider/2netFX related - the current crop are coming from UF, but

>> >there have been persistant listings from a jnj.com machine as well
>> >(see below). Can anyone shed light on the ThunderAssets effort -
>> >and why it seems to generate so many bogus entries ???
>> >
>> >Thanks -
>> >
>> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
>> >Computing Center University of Oregon
>> >
>> > (541) 346-1774
>> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >8909ddf7:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >89195c67:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >89e9aca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >a159bc77:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >a1695ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >b1e9ac37:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >b929ccd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >b9396c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >c9691c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >c9796dd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >d139ec77:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >d1494ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >e1097c17:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >e1f90c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >
>> >cat 8909ddf7
>> >n=2162379402 2162379402 1000161161 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none none

>>
>> >noauth noenc notset notset
>> >k=
>> >v=0
>> >o=- 32937999 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
>> >s=UF-ILABS-test
>> >i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
>> >a=packetformat:RTP
>> >a=packetsize:8096
>> >a=mux:m2t
>> >a=x-sesid:21
>> >a=x-chanid:35
>> >a=x-chan:UF-Ilabs-Channel
>> >a=x-groupid:0
>> >a=x-group:UF-Ilabs-Channel
>> >a=x-hd:1
>> >a=x-server:netiq
>> >m=video 2010 UDP 0
>> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
>> >m=audio 2010 UDP 0
>> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
>> >
>> >mtrace 128.227.74.138 226.1.1.3
>> >Mtrace from 128.227.74.138 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.3
>> >Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
>> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
>> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
>> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
>> >thresh^ 32
>> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> >Reached RP/Core
>> > -8 * * a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) PIM thresh^
0
>>
>> >Reached RP/Core
>> > -9 * * * * ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) didn't respond

>>
>> >-10 * * *
>> >-11 * * *
>> >-12 * * * ...giving up
>> >Round trip time 76 ms; total ttl of 38 required.
>> >
>> >
>> >Results after 43 seconds:
>> >
>> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For Traffic

>>
>> >From
>> > * * * 128.223.214.23 Packet 128.227.74.138 To 226.1.1.3

>> > v __/ rtt 79 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
>> >128.227.254.176 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu is the previous hop
>> > v ^
>> >128.227.254.187
>> >192.80.53.46 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
>> > v ^ ttl 2 1755 pps -17872/72063=1.2x1675 pps
>> >192.80.53.45
>> >198.32.8.42 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
>> > v ^ ttl 3 763 pps 89935/89935=100%2091 pps
>> >198.32.8.41
>> >198.32.8.6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu
>> > v ^ ttl 4 3 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >198.32.8.5
>> >198.32.8.14 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu
>> > v ^ ttl 5 4084 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >198.32.8.13
>> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net
>> > v ^ ttl 6 701 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >198.32.163.13
>> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
>> > v ^ ttl 38 747 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >198.32.163.2
>> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
>> > v ^ ttl 38 805 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >128.223.2.102
>> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
>> > v \__ ttl 38 178 pps ?/0 0 pps
>> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
>> > Receiver Query Source
>> >
>> > traceroute to 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138), 30 hops max, 40 byte
>> >packets
>> > 1 128.223.214.3 (128.223.214.3) 1.223 ms 9.962 ms 1.241 ms
>> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 1.524 ms 0.882 ms 1.155 ms
>> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.223 ms 1.686
ms
>>
>> >1.015 ms
>> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.897 ms 36.000 ms
>> >33.320 ms
>> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 43.391 ms 43.927 ms
>> >45.767 ms
>> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 53.903 ms 52.423 ms 52.500

>>
>> >ms
>> > 7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) 62.701 ms 63.266 ms
>> >62.245 ms
>> > 8 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) 71.900 ms 72.386

>> >ms 81.328 ms
>> > 9 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) 75.205 ms 72.630 ms

>> >72.843 ms
>> >10 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138) 74.012 ms 72.482 ms 73.697 ms
>> >
>> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
>> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
>> ><>
>> >To:
>> >joe@oregon
>> >Subject: leaky hdtv stuff
>> >
>> >FYI
>> >
>> >134f68cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >1b67407b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >231f00db:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >2b5f18eb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >3367d09b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >6b2fd0bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >93c7286b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >bc7b88b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >c32f406b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >cb3fb8bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >d36768cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >e357693b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >ebd768fb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >f33f289b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >fb47d0ab:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >
>> >n=2789016121 2789016121 999893232 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none none

>> >noauth noenc notset notset
>> >k=
>> >v=0
>> >o=- 1278452734 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
>> >s=HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
>> >a=packetformat:RTP
>> >a=packetsize:8096
>> >a=mux:m2t
>> >a=x-sesid:7
>> >a=x-chanid:1
>> >a=x-chan:2netTV-01
>> >a=x-groupid:0
>> >a=x-group:2netTV-01
>> >a=x-hd:1
>> >a=x-server:sam-livehdtv
>> >m=video 5010 UDP 0
>> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
>> >m=audio 5010 UDP 0
>> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
>> >
>> >traceroute to 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
>> > 1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) 3.022 ms 20.446 ms 7.906 ms

>> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 2.623 ms 0.794 ms 0.797 ms
>> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.287 ms 2.556
ms
>>
>> >3.817 ms
>> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.573 ms 34.455 ms
>> >33.703 ms
>> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 44.325 ms 44.530 ms
>> >43.426 ms
>> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 52.281 ms 52.171 ms 52.885

>>
>> >ms
>> > 7 clev-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.26) 61.330 ms 59.077 ms
>> >58.159 ms
>> > 8 nycm-clev.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.30) 74.374 ms 73.917 ms
>> >70.383 ms
>> > 9 wash-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.45) 75.030 ms 75.175 ms
>> >75.053 ms
>> >10 vbns-abilene.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.10) 79.500 ms 77.118 ms

>> >76.428 ms
>> >11 jn1-so7-0-0-1.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.137) 81.424 ms 82.221 ms
>> >82.010 ms
>> >12 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) 83.476 ms 83.930 ms 83.217 ms

>> >13 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 83.667 ms 83.554 ms 86.410 ms
>> >14 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 84.491 ms 84.602 ms 83.482 ms
>> >
>> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.1
>> >Querying full reverse path...
>> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
>> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
>> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
>> >thresh^ 32
>> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM thresh^ 0 Reached

>> >RP/Core
>> >Round trip time 154 ms; total ttl of 34 required.
>> >
>> >Waiting to accumulate statistics...Results after 9 seconds:
>> >
>> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For Traffic

>>
>> >From
>> > * * * 224.0.1.32 Packet 166.61.2.57 To 226.1.1.1
>> > v __/ rtt 40 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
>> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net Reached RP/Core
>> > v ^ ttl 2 664 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >198.32.163.13
>> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
>> > v ^ ttl 34 858 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >198.32.163.2
>> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
>> > v ^ ttl 34 778 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
>> >128.223.2.102
>> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
>> > v \__ ttl 34 793 pps ?/0 0 pps
>> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
>> > Receiver Query Source
>> >
>> >mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics printed

>> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 0.0.0.0
>> >Querying full reverse path...
>> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
>> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
>> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
>> >thresh^ 32
>> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
>> > -7 jn1-at1-1-0-2008.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.13) PIM thresh^ 1
>> > -8 jn1-so7-0-0-0.nor.vbns.net (204.147.136.147) PIM thresh^ 1
>> > -9 jn1-so7-0-0-0.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.133) PIM thresh^ 1
>> >-10 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) PIM/Static thresh^ 0
>> >-11 ? (166.61.2.3) PIM thresh^ 0
>> >-12 ? (166.61.2.57)
>> >Round trip time 202 ms; total ttl of 41 required.
>> >
>> >
>> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid2.atr.jnj.com.html

>>
>> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid3.atr.jnj.com.html

>>
>> >
>> >using this stuff:
>> >
>> >http://www.2netfx.com/stream.htm
>> >http://www.2netfx.com/press/2netfx_i2.htm
>> >
>> >part of the HDTV crowd ???
>> >
>> >guy I've contacted several times at mci -
>> >
>> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
>> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
>> ><>
>> >To: Andy Lenviel
>> ><>
>> >Subject: RE: leaky sessions -
>> >
>> >Thanks, just out of curiosity, why do I see Johnson & Johnson
>> >announces via I2 based routes?
>> >
>> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
>> >Computing Center University of Oregon
>> >
>> > (541) 346-1774
>> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andy Lenviel wrote:
>> >
>> >> hello lucy,
>> >>
>> >> i've contacted johnson & johnson. they are looking into the issue.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
>> >Computing Center University of Oregon
>> >
>> > (541) 346-1774
>> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Marshall Eubanks
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Marshall Eubanks




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