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  • From: "Lucy E. Lynch" <>
  • To: Marshall Eubanks <>
  • Cc: <>
  • Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
  • Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
Marshall -

Each group seems to have consecutive timestamps - 1 minute
apart - up to about 15 session announcements - I'd be happy to
tar up a batch and send them if you like -

I only see 4 actual source addressess:

o=- 90049249 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
s=UF-ILABS-test
i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg

o=- 72345499 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
s=Cool Commercials.mpg
i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg

o=- 75052593 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
s=J & J Test.mpg
i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg

o=- 80720546 0 IN IP4 45.240.10.136
s=HD-underwater.mpg
i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg

Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
Computing Center University of Oregon

(541) 346-1774
Cell: (541) 912-7998


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> >Marshall -
> >
>
> Lucy;
>
> I see none of these in our cache.
>
> Marshall
>
> >these are the sessions I see today:
> >
> >345271ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >34a2107d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >35a300bd:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >38087d27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >38199c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >38796c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >50094c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >50381cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >80a8abc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >80a8da51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >80c89ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >88a89a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >88d85b51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >90984c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >90a8ea71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >90a8fa01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >90a98d37:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >90f84a11:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >9432007d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >98a8ead1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >98a8faa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >9d53301d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >a0a81a01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >a0c80ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >a55381ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >a8486c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >a8595c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >a8a8eb31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >a8b87aa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >a8d8da31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >ac22600d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >ac32005d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >b0b86a51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >b0c8eaf1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >b8b86a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >b8b87bc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >b8d82a41:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >c0491d17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >c0588cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >c0591c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >c42401d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >ca2100d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >dc62307d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >dc7221ed:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >ddf3102d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >e412505d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >e462e08d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
> >e8396c17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >e8a87a71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
> >f0b81a91:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
> >f8a92c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >
> >and its not so much that they're bogus or excessive - but
> >rather mysterious (no good contact info etc.) and broken ...
> >
> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lucy;
> >>
> >> I am seeing just one :
> >>
> >> multicasttech-2>show ip sdr "UF-ILABS-test"
> >> SDR Cache - 250 entries
> >> Session Name: UF-ILABS-test
> >> Description: c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >> Group: 226.1.1.3, ttl: 64, Contiguous allocation: 1
> >> Uptime: 06:44:45, Last Heard: 00:00:01
> >> Announcement source: 128.227.74.138, destination: 224.2.127.254
> >> Created by: - 49217374 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> >> Phone number:
> >> Email:
> >> URL:
> >> Media: video 2010 UDP 0
> >> Media: audio 2010 UDP 0
> >> multicasttech-2>
> >>
> >> By bogus SDP standards, this hardly seems excessive.
> >>
> >> Marshall
> >>
> >> >All -
> >> >
> >> >I'm seeing a number of bogus sap announcements - which seem to
> >> >be streamrider/2netFX related - the current crop are coming from UF,
> >> >but
>
> >> >there have been persistant listings from a jnj.com machine as well
> >> >(see below). Can anyone shed light on the ThunderAssets effort -
> >> >and why it seems to generate so many bogus entries ???
> >> >
> >> >Thanks -
> >> >
> >> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >> >
> >> > (541) 346-1774
> >> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >8909ddf7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >89195c67:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >89e9aca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >a159bc77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >a1695ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >b1e9ac37:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >b929ccd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >b9396c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >c9691c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >c9796dd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >d139ec77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >d1494ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >e1097c17:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >e1f90c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >
> >> >cat 8909ddf7
> >> >n=2162379402 2162379402 1000161161 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none
> >> >none
>
> >>
> >> >noauth noenc notset notset
> >> >k=
> >> >v=0
> >> >o=- 32937999 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> >> >s=UF-ILABS-test
> >> >i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >> >a=packetformat:RTP
> >> >a=packetsize:8096
> >> >a=mux:m2t
> >> >a=x-sesid:21
> >> >a=x-chanid:35
> >> >a=x-chan:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> >> >a=x-groupid:0
> >> >a=x-group:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> >> >a=x-hd:1
> >> >a=x-server:netiq
> >> >m=video 2010 UDP 0
> >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> >> >m=audio 2010 UDP 0
> >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> >> >
> >> >mtrace 128.227.74.138 226.1.1.3
> >> >Mtrace from 128.227.74.138 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.3
> >> >Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
> >> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> >> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> >> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> >> >thresh^ 32
> >> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> >Reached RP/Core
> >> > -8 * * a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) PIM thresh^
> 0
> >>
> >> >Reached RP/Core
> >> > -9 * * * * ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) didn't
> >> > respond
>
> >>
> >> >-10 * * *
> >> >-11 * * *
> >> >-12 * * * ...giving up
> >> >Round trip time 76 ms; total ttl of 38 required.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Results after 43 seconds:
> >> >
> >> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For
> >> > Traffic
>
> >>
> >> >From
> >> > * * * 128.223.214.23 Packet 128.227.74.138 To 226.1.1.3
>
> >> > v __/ rtt 79 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> >> >128.227.254.176 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu is the previous hop
> >> > v ^
> >> >128.227.254.187
> >> >192.80.53.46 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> >> > v ^ ttl 2 1755 pps -17872/72063=1.2x1675 pps
> >> >192.80.53.45
> >> >198.32.8.42 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> >> > v ^ ttl 3 763 pps 89935/89935=100%2091 pps
> >> >198.32.8.41
> >> >198.32.8.6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu
> >> > v ^ ttl 4 3 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >198.32.8.5
> >> >198.32.8.14 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu
> >> > v ^ ttl 5 4084 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >198.32.8.13
> >> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net
> >> > v ^ ttl 6 701 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >198.32.163.13
> >> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> >> > v ^ ttl 38 747 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >198.32.163.2
> >> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> >> > v ^ ttl 38 805 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >128.223.2.102
> >> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> >> > v \__ ttl 38 178 pps ?/0 0 pps
> >> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> >> > Receiver Query Source
> >> >
> >> > traceroute to 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> >> >packets
> >> > 1 128.223.214.3 (128.223.214.3) 1.223 ms 9.962 ms 1.241 ms
> >> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 1.524 ms 0.882 ms 1.155 ms
> >> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.223 ms 1.686
> ms
> >>
> >> >1.015 ms
> >> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.897 ms 36.000 ms
> >> >33.320 ms
> >> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 43.391 ms 43.927 ms
> >> >45.767 ms
> >> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 53.903 ms 52.423 ms
> >> > 52.500
>
> >>
> >> >ms
> >> > 7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) 62.701 ms 63.266 ms
> >> >62.245 ms
> >> > 8 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) 71.900 ms 72.386
>
> >> >ms 81.328 ms
> >> > 9 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) 75.205 ms 72.630 ms
>
> >> >72.843 ms
> >> >10 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138) 74.012 ms 72.482 ms 73.697 ms
> >> >
> >> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
> >> ><>
> >> >To:
> >> >joe@oregon
> >> >Subject: leaky hdtv stuff
> >> >
> >> >FYI
> >> >
> >> >134f68cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >1b67407b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >231f00db:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >2b5f18eb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >3367d09b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >6b2fd0bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >93c7286b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >bc7b88b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >c32f406b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >cb3fb8bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >d36768cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >e357693b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >ebd768fb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >f33f289b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >fb47d0ab:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >
> >> >n=2789016121 2789016121 999893232 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none
> >> >none
>
> >> >noauth noenc notset notset
> >> >k=
> >> >v=0
> >> >o=- 1278452734 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
> >> >s=HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >> >a=packetformat:RTP
> >> >a=packetsize:8096
> >> >a=mux:m2t
> >> >a=x-sesid:7
> >> >a=x-chanid:1
> >> >a=x-chan:2netTV-01
> >> >a=x-groupid:0
> >> >a=x-group:2netTV-01
> >> >a=x-hd:1
> >> >a=x-server:sam-livehdtv
> >> >m=video 5010 UDP 0
> >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> >> >m=audio 5010 UDP 0
> >> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> >> >
> >> >traceroute to 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> >> > 1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) 3.022 ms 20.446 ms 7.906 ms
>
> >> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 2.623 ms 0.794 ms 0.797 ms
> >> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.287 ms 2.556
> ms
> >>
> >> >3.817 ms
> >> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.573 ms 34.455 ms
> >> >33.703 ms
> >> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 44.325 ms 44.530 ms
> >> >43.426 ms
> >> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 52.281 ms 52.171 ms
> >> > 52.885
>
> >>
> >> >ms
> >> > 7 clev-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.26) 61.330 ms 59.077 ms
> >> >58.159 ms
> >> > 8 nycm-clev.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.30) 74.374 ms 73.917 ms
> >> >70.383 ms
> >> > 9 wash-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.45) 75.030 ms 75.175 ms
> >> >75.053 ms
> >> >10 vbns-abilene.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.10) 79.500 ms 77.118 ms
>
> >> >76.428 ms
> >> >11 jn1-so7-0-0-1.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.137) 81.424 ms 82.221 ms
> >> >82.010 ms
> >> >12 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) 83.476 ms 83.930 ms 83.217 ms
>
> >> >13 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 83.667 ms 83.554 ms 86.410 ms
> >> >14 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 84.491 ms 84.602 ms 83.482 ms
> >> >
> >> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.1
> >> >Querying full reverse path...
> >> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> >> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> >> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> >> >thresh^ 32
> >> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM thresh^ 0
> >> > Reached
>
> >> >RP/Core
> >> >Round trip time 154 ms; total ttl of 34 required.
> >> >
> >> >Waiting to accumulate statistics...Results after 9 seconds:
> >> >
> >> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For
> >> > Traffic
>
> >>
> >> >From
> >> > * * * 224.0.1.32 Packet 166.61.2.57 To 226.1.1.1
> >> > v __/ rtt 40 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> >> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net Reached RP/Core
> >> > v ^ ttl 2 664 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >198.32.163.13
> >> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> >> > v ^ ttl 34 858 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >198.32.163.2
> >> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> >> > v ^ ttl 34 778 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >> >128.223.2.102
> >> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> >> > v \__ ttl 34 793 pps ?/0 0 pps
> >> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> >> > Receiver Query Source
> >> >
> >> >mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics printed
>
> >> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 0.0.0.0
> >> >Querying full reverse path...
> >> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> >> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> >> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> >> >thresh^ 32
> >> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >> > -7 jn1-at1-1-0-2008.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.13) PIM thresh^ 1
> >> > -8 jn1-so7-0-0-0.nor.vbns.net (204.147.136.147) PIM thresh^ 1
> >> > -9 jn1-so7-0-0-0.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.133) PIM thresh^ 1
> >> >-10 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) PIM/Static thresh^ 0
> >> >-11 ? (166.61.2.3) PIM thresh^ 0
> >> >-12 ? (166.61.2.57)
> >> >Round trip time 202 ms; total ttl of 41 required.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid2.atr.jnj.com.html
>
> >>
> >> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid3.atr.jnj.com.html
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >using this stuff:
> >> >
> >> >http://www.2netfx.com/stream.htm
> >> >http://www.2netfx.com/press/2netfx_i2.htm
> >> >
> >> >part of the HDTV crowd ???
> >> >
> >> >guy I've contacted several times at mci -
> >> >
> >> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
> >> ><>
> >> >To: Andy Lenviel
> >> ><>
> >> >Subject: RE: leaky sessions -
> >> >
> >> >Thanks, just out of curiosity, why do I see Johnson & Johnson
> >> >announces via I2 based routes?
> >> >
> >> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >> >
> >> > (541) 346-1774
> >> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andy Lenviel wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> hello lucy,
> >> >>
> >> >> i've contacted johnson & johnson. they are looking into the issue.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >> >
> >> > (541) 346-1774
> >> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Marshall Eubanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Marshall Eubanks
>
>
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