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  • From: "Lucy E. Lynch" <>
  • To: Marshall Eubanks <>
  • Cc: <>
  • Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
  • Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:17:18 -0700 (PDT)
Marshall -

these are the sessions I see today:

345271ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
34a2107d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
35a300bd:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
38087d27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
38199c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
38796c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
50094c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
50381cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
80a8abc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
80a8da51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
80c89ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
88a89a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
88d85b51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
90984c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
90a8ea71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
90a8fa01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
90a98d37:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
90f84a11:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
9432007d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
98a8ead1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
98a8faa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
9d53301d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
a0a81a01:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
a0c80ac1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
a55381ad:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
a8486c77:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
a8595c27:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
a8a8eb31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
a8b87aa1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
a8d8da31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
ac22600d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
ac32005d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
b0b86a51:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
b0c8eaf1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
b8b86a31:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
b8b87bc1:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
b8d82a41:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
c0491d17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
c0588cd7:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
c0591c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
c42401d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
ca2100d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
dc62307d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
dc7221ed:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
ddf3102d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
e412505d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
e462e08d:i=C:\ThunderAssets\\HD-underwater.mpg
e8396c17:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
e8a87a71:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\J & J Test.mpg
f0b81a91:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\Cool Commercials.mpg
f8a92c07:i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg

and its not so much that they're bogus or excessive - but
rather mysterious (no good contact info etc.) and broken ...

Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
Computing Center University of Oregon

(541) 346-1774
Cell: (541) 912-7998


On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> Hi Lucy;
>
> I am seeing just one :
>
> multicasttech-2>show ip sdr "UF-ILABS-test"
> SDR Cache - 250 entries
> Session Name: UF-ILABS-test
> Description: c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> Group: 226.1.1.3, ttl: 64, Contiguous allocation: 1
> Uptime: 06:44:45, Last Heard: 00:00:01
> Announcement source: 128.227.74.138, destination: 224.2.127.254
> Created by: - 49217374 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> Phone number:
> Email:
> URL:
> Media: video 2010 UDP 0
> Media: audio 2010 UDP 0
> multicasttech-2>
>
> By bogus SDP standards, this hardly seems excessive.
>
> Marshall
>
> >All -
> >
> >I'm seeing a number of bogus sap announcements - which seem to
> >be streamrider/2netFX related - the current crop are coming from UF, but
> >there have been persistant listings from a jnj.com machine as well
> >(see below). Can anyone shed light on the ThunderAssets effort -
> >and why it seems to generate so many bogus entries ???
> >
> >Thanks -
> >
> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
> >
> >
> >8909ddf7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >89195c67:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >89e9aca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >a159bc77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >a1695ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >b1e9ac37:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >b929ccd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >b9396c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >c9691c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >c9796dd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >d139ec77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >d1494ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >e1097c17:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >e1f90c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >
> >cat 8909ddf7
> >n=2162379402 2162379402 1000161161 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none none
>
> >noauth noenc notset notset
> >k=
> >v=0
> >o=- 32937999 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> >s=UF-ILABS-test
> >i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> >a=packetformat:RTP
> >a=packetsize:8096
> >a=mux:m2t
> >a=x-sesid:21
> >a=x-chanid:35
> >a=x-chan:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> >a=x-groupid:0
> >a=x-group:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> >a=x-hd:1
> >a=x-server:netiq
> >m=video 2010 UDP 0
> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> >m=audio 2010 UDP 0
> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> >
> >mtrace 128.227.74.138 226.1.1.3
> >Mtrace from 128.227.74.138 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.3
> >Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> >thresh^ 32
> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> >Reached RP/Core
> > -8 * * a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) PIM thresh^ 0
>
> >Reached RP/Core
> > -9 * * * * ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) didn't respond
>
> >-10 * * *
> >-11 * * *
> >-12 * * * ...giving up
> >Round trip time 76 ms; total ttl of 38 required.
> >
> >
> >Results after 43 seconds:
> >
> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For Traffic
>
> >From
> > * * * 128.223.214.23 Packet 128.227.74.138 To 226.1.1.3
> > v __/ rtt 79 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> >128.227.254.176 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu is the previous hop
> > v ^
> >128.227.254.187
> >192.80.53.46 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> > v ^ ttl 2 1755 pps -17872/72063=1.2x1675 pps
> >192.80.53.45
> >198.32.8.42 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> > v ^ ttl 3 763 pps 89935/89935=100%2091 pps
> >198.32.8.41
> >198.32.8.6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu
> > v ^ ttl 4 3 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >198.32.8.5
> >198.32.8.14 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu
> > v ^ ttl 5 4084 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >198.32.8.13
> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net
> > v ^ ttl 6 701 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >198.32.163.13
> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> > v ^ ttl 38 747 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >198.32.163.2
> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v ^ ttl 38 805 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >128.223.2.102
> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v \__ ttl 38 178 pps ?/0 0 pps
> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> > Receiver Query Source
> >
> > traceroute to 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> >packets
> > 1 128.223.214.3 (128.223.214.3) 1.223 ms 9.962 ms 1.241 ms
> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 1.524 ms 0.882 ms 1.155 ms
> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.223 ms 1.686 ms
>
> >1.015 ms
> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.897 ms 36.000 ms
> >33.320 ms
> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 43.391 ms 43.927 ms
> >45.767 ms
> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 53.903 ms 52.423 ms 52.500
>
> >ms
> > 7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) 62.701 ms 63.266 ms
> >62.245 ms
> > 8 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) 71.900 ms 72.386
> >ms 81.328 ms
> > 9 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) 75.205 ms 72.630 ms
> >72.843 ms
> >10 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138) 74.012 ms 72.482 ms 73.697 ms
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
> ><>
> >To:
> >joe@oregon
> >Subject: leaky hdtv stuff
> >
> >FYI
> >
> >134f68cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >1b67407b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >231f00db:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >2b5f18eb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >3367d09b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >6b2fd0bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >93c7286b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >bc7b88b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >c32f406b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >cb3fb8bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >d36768cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >e357693b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >ebd768fb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >f33f289b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >fb47d0ab:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >
> >n=2789016121 2789016121 999893232 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none none
> >noauth noenc notset notset
> >k=
> >v=0
> >o=- 1278452734 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
> >s=HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >a=packetformat:RTP
> >a=packetsize:8096
> >a=mux:m2t
> >a=x-sesid:7
> >a=x-chanid:1
> >a=x-chan:2netTV-01
> >a=x-groupid:0
> >a=x-group:2netTV-01
> >a=x-hd:1
> >a=x-server:sam-livehdtv
> >m=video 5010 UDP 0
> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> >m=audio 5010 UDP 0
> >c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> >
> >traceroute to 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> > 1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) 3.022 ms 20.446 ms 7.906 ms
> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 2.623 ms 0.794 ms 0.797 ms
> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.287 ms 2.556 ms
>
> >3.817 ms
> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.573 ms 34.455 ms
> >33.703 ms
> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 44.325 ms 44.530 ms
> >43.426 ms
> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 52.281 ms 52.171 ms 52.885
>
> >ms
> > 7 clev-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.26) 61.330 ms 59.077 ms
> >58.159 ms
> > 8 nycm-clev.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.30) 74.374 ms 73.917 ms
> >70.383 ms
> > 9 wash-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.45) 75.030 ms 75.175 ms
> >75.053 ms
> >10 vbns-abilene.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.10) 79.500 ms 77.118 ms
> >76.428 ms
> >11 jn1-so7-0-0-1.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.137) 81.424 ms 82.221 ms
> >82.010 ms
> >12 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) 83.476 ms 83.930 ms 83.217 ms
> >13 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 83.667 ms 83.554 ms 86.410 ms
> >14 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 84.491 ms 84.602 ms 83.482 ms
> >
> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.1
> >Querying full reverse path...
> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> >thresh^ 32
> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM thresh^ 0 Reached
> >RP/Core
> >Round trip time 154 ms; total ttl of 34 required.
> >
> >Waiting to accumulate statistics...Results after 9 seconds:
> >
> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For Traffic
>
> >From
> > * * * 224.0.1.32 Packet 166.61.2.57 To 226.1.1.1
> > v __/ rtt 40 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> >198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net Reached RP/Core
> > v ^ ttl 2 664 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >198.32.163.13
> >198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> > v ^ ttl 34 858 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >198.32.163.2
> >128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v ^ ttl 34 778 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> >128.223.2.102
> >128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v \__ ttl 34 793 pps ?/0 0 pps
> >128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> > Receiver Query Source
> >
> >mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics printed
> >Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 0.0.0.0
> >Querying full reverse path...
> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> >thresh^ 32
> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -7 jn1-at1-1-0-2008.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.13) PIM thresh^ 1
> > -8 jn1-so7-0-0-0.nor.vbns.net (204.147.136.147) PIM thresh^ 1
> > -9 jn1-so7-0-0-0.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.133) PIM thresh^ 1
> >-10 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) PIM/Static thresh^ 0
> >-11 ? (166.61.2.3) PIM thresh^ 0
> >-12 ? (166.61.2.57)
> >Round trip time 202 ms; total ttl of 41 required.
> >
> >
> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid2.atr.jnj.com.html
>
> >http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid3.atr.jnj.com.html
>
> >
> >using this stuff:
> >
> >http://www.2netfx.com/stream.htm
> >http://www.2netfx.com/press/2netfx_i2.htm
> >
> >part of the HDTV crowd ???
> >
> >guy I've contacted several times at mci -
> >
> >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Lucy E. Lynch
> ><>
> >To: Andy Lenviel
> ><>
> >Subject: RE: leaky sessions -
> >
> >Thanks, just out of curiosity, why do I see Johnson & Johnson
> >announces via I2 based routes?
> >
> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andy Lenviel wrote:
> >
> >> hello lucy,
> >>
> >> i've contacted johnson & johnson. they are looking into the issue.
> >>
> >
> >Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> >Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> >Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
> >
> >
>
> Marshall Eubanks
>
>
>


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