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- From: Gregory Goddard <>
- To: <>
- Cc: <>, <>
- Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:33:35 -0400 (EDT)
fyi
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:36:53 -0400
From: Chris Griffin
<>
To: Gregory Goddard
<>
Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
This is being used to send a 20Mbps HDTV stream to ilabs in Atlanta. It will
probably be running for a few days. This is beta software and likely has some
bugs. I can disable SAP advertisements if its bending people out of shape too
much.
Chris
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:29:35 -0500
> From: Marty Hoag
> <>
> To: Lucy E. Lynch
> <>,
>
> ,
>
>
> Subject: Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd)
>
> Lucy:
>
> I don't know anything about this but I know someone at J&J active
> on the Access Grid who might know (or know who to forward it too).
> I've cc-ed Evan. Likewise, Greg Goddard might know about the
> ThunderAssets at UFL (another Access Gridder but UFL may have folks
> on the wg list too).
>
> Marty
>
> "Lucy E. Lynch" wrote:
> >
> > All -
> >
> > I'm seeing a number of bogus sap announcements - which seem to
> > be streamrider/2netFX related - the current crop are coming from UF, but
> > there have been persistant listings from a jnj.com machine as well
> > (see below). Can anyone shed light on the ThunderAssets effort -
> > and why it seems to generate so many bogus entries ???
> >
> > Thanks -
> >
> > Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> > Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
> >
> > 8909ddf7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > 89195c67:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > 89e9aca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > a159bc77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > a1695ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > b1e9ac37:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > b929ccd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > b9396c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > c9691c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > c9796dd7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > d139ec77:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > d1494ca7:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > e1097c17:s=UF-ILABS-test
> > e1f90c87:s=UF-ILABS-test
> >
> > cat 8909ddf7
> > n=2162379402 2162379402 1000161161 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none none
> > noauth noenc notset notset
> > k=
> > v=0
> > o=- 32937999 0 IN IP4 128.227.74.138
> > s=UF-ILABS-test
> > i=c:\ThunderAssets\HD-underwater.mpg
> > a=packetformat:RTP
> > a=packetsize:8096
> > a=mux:m2t
> > a=x-sesid:21
> > a=x-chanid:35
> > a=x-chan:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> > a=x-groupid:0
> > a=x-group:UF-Ilabs-Channel
> > a=x-hd:1
> > a=x-server:netiq
> > m=video 2010 UDP 0
> > c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> > m=audio 2010 UDP 0
> > c=IN IP4 226.1.1.3/64
> >
> > mtrace 128.227.74.138 226.1.1.3
> > Mtrace from 128.227.74.138 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.3
> > Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> > thresh^ 32
> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > Reached RP/Core
> > -8 * * a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) PIM thresh^ 0
> > Reached RP/Core
> > -9 * * * * ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) didn't respond
> > -10 * * *
> > -11 * * *
> > -12 * * * ...giving up
> > Round trip time 76 ms; total ttl of 38 required.
> >
> > Results after 43 seconds:
> >
> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For Traffic
> > From
> > * * * 128.223.214.23 Packet 128.227.74.138 To 226.1.1.3
> > v __/ rtt 79 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> > 128.227.254.176 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu is the previous hop
> > v ^
> > 128.227.254.187
> > 192.80.53.46 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> > v ^ ttl 2 1755 pps -17872/72063=1.2x1675 pps
> > 192.80.53.45
> > 198.32.8.42 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu Reached RP/Core
> > v ^ ttl 3 763 pps 89935/89935=100%2091 pps
> > 198.32.8.41
> > 198.32.8.6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu
> > v ^ ttl 4 3 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 198.32.8.5
> > 198.32.8.14 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu
> > v ^ ttl 5 4084 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 198.32.8.13
> > 198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net
> > v ^ ttl 6 701 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 198.32.163.13
> > 198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> > v ^ ttl 38 747 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 198.32.163.2
> > 128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v ^ ttl 38 805 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 128.223.2.102
> > 128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v \__ ttl 38 178 pps ?/0 0 pps
> > 128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> > Receiver Query Source
> >
> > traceroute to 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> > packets
> > 1 128.223.214.3 (128.223.214.3) 1.223 ms 9.962 ms 1.241 ms
> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 1.524 ms 0.882 ms 1.155 ms
> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.223 ms 1.686 ms
> > 1.015 ms
> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.897 ms 36.000 ms
> > 33.320 ms
> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 43.391 ms 43.927 ms
> > 45.767 ms
> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 53.903 ms 52.423 ms 52.500
> > ms
> > 7 atla-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.42) 62.701 ms 63.266 ms
> > 62.245 ms
> > 8 a713.c12008.atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (192.80.53.46) 71.900 ms 72.386
> > ms 81.328 ms
> > 9 ssrb-core-msfc-v2.ns.ufl.edu (128.227.254.176) 75.205 ms 72.630 ms
> > 72.843 ms
> > 10 128.227.74.138 (128.227.74.138) 74.012 ms 72.482 ms 73.697 ms
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Lucy E. Lynch
> > <>
> > To:
> > joe@oregon
> > Subject: leaky hdtv stuff
> >
> > FYI
> >
> > 134f68cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > 1b67407b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > 231f00db:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > 2b5f18eb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > 3367d09b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > 6b2fd0bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > 93c7286b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > bc7b88b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > c32f406b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > cb3fb8bb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > d36768cb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > e357693b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > ebd768fb:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > f33f289b:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > fb47d0ab:i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> >
> > n=2789016121 2789016121 999893232 224.2.127.254 9875 64 trusted none none
> > noauth noenc notset notset
> > k=
> > v=0
> > o=- 1278452734 0 IN IP4 166.61.2.57
> > s=HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > i=E:\ThunderAssets\\HD-UnderWater.mpg
> > a=packetformat:RTP
> > a=packetsize:8096
> > a=mux:m2t
> > a=x-sesid:7
> > a=x-chanid:1
> > a=x-chan:2netTV-01
> > a=x-groupid:0
> > a=x-group:2netTV-01
> > a=x-hd:1
> > a=x-server:sam-livehdtv
> > m=video 5010 UDP 0
> > c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> > m=audio 5010 UDP 0
> > c=IN IP4 226.1.1.1/64
> >
> > traceroute to 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> > 1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) 3.022 ms 20.446 ms 7.906 ms
> > 2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) 2.623 ms 0.794 ms 0.797 ms
> > 3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) 1.287 ms 2.556 ms
> > 3.817 ms
> > 4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) 33.573 ms 34.455 ms
> > 33.703 ms
> > 5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 44.325 ms 44.530 ms
> > 43.426 ms
> > 6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 52.281 ms 52.171 ms 52.885
> > ms
> > 7 clev-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.26) 61.330 ms 59.077 ms
> > 58.159 ms
> > 8 nycm-clev.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.30) 74.374 ms 73.917 ms
> > 70.383 ms
> > 9 wash-nycm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.45) 75.030 ms 75.175 ms
> > 75.053 ms
> > 10 vbns-abilene.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.11.10) 79.500 ms 77.118 ms
> > 76.428 ms
> > 11 jn1-so7-0-0-1.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.137) 81.424 ms 82.221 ms
> > 82.010 ms
> > 12 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) 83.476 ms 83.930 ms 83.217 ms
> > 13 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 83.667 ms 83.554 ms 86.410 ms
> > 14 166.61.2.57 (166.61.2.57) 84.491 ms 84.602 ms 83.482 ms
> >
> > Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 226.1.1.1
> > Querying full reverse path...
> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> > thresh^ 32
> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM thresh^ 0 Reached
> > RP/Core
> > Round trip time 154 ms; total ttl of 34 required.
> >
> > Waiting to accumulate statistics...Results after 9 seconds:
> >
> > Source Response Dest Overall Packet Statistics For Traffic
> > From
> > * * * 224.0.1.32 Packet 166.61.2.57 To 226.1.1.1
> > v __/ rtt 40 ms Rate Lost/Sent = Pct Rate
> > 198.32.163.14 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net Reached RP/Core
> > v ^ ttl 2 664 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 198.32.163.13
> > 198.32.163.1 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net
> > v ^ ttl 34 858 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 198.32.163.2
> > 128.223.2.7 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v ^ ttl 34 778 pps 0/0 = -- 0 pps
> > 128.223.2.102
> > 128.223.214.3 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu
> > v \__ ttl 34 793 pps ?/0 0 pps
> > 128.223.214.23 128.223.214.23
> > Receiver Query Source
> >
> > mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics printed
> > Mtrace from 166.61.2.57 to 128.223.214.23 via group 0.0.0.0
> > Querying full reverse path...
> > 0 pythia.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.23)
> > -1 uonet2-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.214.3) PIM thresh^ 0 [default]
> > -2 cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.2.7) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -3 ge-0-0.core0.eug.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.1) PIM/BGP4+
> > thresh^ 32
> > -4 eug-dnvr.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -5 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -6 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) PIM/BGP4+ thresh^ 0
> > -7 jn1-at1-1-0-2008.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.13) PIM thresh^ 1
> > -8 jn1-so7-0-0-0.nor.vbns.net (204.147.136.147) PIM thresh^ 1
> > -9 jn1-so7-0-0-0.wor.vbns.net (204.147.136.133) PIM thresh^ 1
> > -10 JNJ2.wor.vbns.net (204.147.129.22) PIM/Static thresh^ 0
> > -11 ? (166.61.2.3) PIM thresh^ 0
> > -12 ? (166.61.2.57)
> > Round trip time 202 ms; total ttl of 41 required.
> >
> >
http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid2.atr.jnj.com.
html
> >
http://www.nordu.net/connectivity/multicast/beacon/beacon_watrgrid3.atr.jnj.com.
html
> >
> > using this stuff:
> >
> > http://www.2netfx.com/stream.htm
> > http://www.2netfx.com/press/2netfx_i2.htm
> >
> > part of the HDTV crowd ???
> >
> > guy I've contacted several times at mci -
> >
> > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Lucy E. Lynch
> > <>
> > To: Andy Lenviel
> > <>
> > Subject: RE: leaky sessions -
> >
> > Thanks, just out of curiosity, why do I see Johnson & Johnson
> > announces via I2 based routes?
> >
> > Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> > Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Andy Lenviel wrote:
> >
> > > hello lucy,
> > >
> > > i've contacted johnson & johnson. they are looking into the issue.
> > >
> >
> > Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services
> > Computing Center University of Oregon
> >
> > (541) 346-1774
> > Cell: (541) 912-7998
> >
>
- leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Lucy E. Lynch, 09/10/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Marshall Eubanks, 09/10/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Lucy E. Lynch, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Gregory Goddard, 09/10/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Marshall Eubanks, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Lucy E. Lynch, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Roy Hockett, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Lucy E. Lynch, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Roy Hockett, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Lucy E. Lynch, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Roy Hockett, 09/11/2001
- Re: leaky hdtv stuff (fwd), Lucy E. Lynch, 09/11/2001
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