perfsonar-user - Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values
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- From: "Andrew Lake" <>
- To: "Brian Candler" <>
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- Subject: Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values
- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 06:00:16 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Brian,
The nagios plug-in indeed averages the results over the time-range. If you want it to put greater weight on more recent measurements then the way to do that is shorten the value given to -r. The reason we use averages is that TCP throughout can vary greatly depending on congestion, etc. You may or may not care about one-off throughput dips. Tweaking the range and thresholds are the current mechanism we provide for adjusting the sensitivity to such events.
As Ivan said, the direction reporting 700Mbps corresponds to the solid blue line. You can see this in the graph heading. I can’t see your whole Maddash page, but there were some graph URL generation bugs in teh MeshConfig that are fixed in 3.5, so maybe what you were expecting to be solid vs blue is swapped from what is shown. Either way the direction reported by the solid blue line and the average reported by the nagios check lines-up, so I don’t think any incorrect value is being calculated.
Also, your comments on the default interval, keep in mind the toolkit default is to run throughput tests every 6 hours (plus or minus some random amount). Assuming that default, running it much more than every 8 hours isn’t going to do you much good. If you run the test more often, then you can check more often which is why those knobs are there.
Hope that answers your questions (sorry if I missed any).
Thanks,
Andy
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Brian Candler <> wrote:
I have some other issues with maddash but I'll leave those for a separate posting :-)
The most pressing one is that it shows apparently the "wrong" values, and I've traced this down to the output from the Nagios plugin.
Example: maddash shows throughput of 0.700Gbps for throughput from pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke (197.136.30.1) to pfsnr.uon-pop.n.kenet.or.ke (197.136.25.1)
[root@maddash-uon ~]# /opt/perfsonar_ps/nagios/bin/check_throughput.pl -u http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/esmond/perfsonar/archive -w 0.8: -c 0.5: -r 86400 -s pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke -d pfsnr.uon-pop.n.kenet.or.ke
PS_CHECK_THROUGHPUT WARNING - Average throughput is 0.700Gbps | Count=2;; Min=0.595423;; Max=0.804973;; Average=0.700198;; Standard_Deviation=0.148174225997641;;
But if you look at the graph, the most recent throughput reading is 330Mbps.
http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/serviceTest/graphWidget.cgi?source=197.136.30.1&dest=197.136.25.1&url="http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost%2Fesmond%2Fperfsonar%2Farchive%2F#timeframe=1d<gcifbagg.png>
Now, there are a couple of things to note:
* in the mesh configuration I set "force_bidirectional 0". This adds "send_only 1" to the regular_testing.conf. Therefore the throughput measurement stored on node A is the throughput from A to B only.
This is what we see in the graph above.
* In the maddash gui agent configuration (/opt/perfsonar_ps/mesh_config/etc/gui_agent_configuration.conf) I reduced the check_interval to 1200 (default was 28800, which meant that the dashboard view was up to 8 hours out of date)
However I've removed maddash from the equation by calling the nagios plugin directly.
* So now I want to check the esmond data directly. I don't know if there is an esmond browser; it would be great if there were. But for now I'm just manually reading the JSON:
curl 'http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/esmond/perfsonar/archive/?format=json' | python -mjson.tool | less
I *believe* the correct archive is this one: the timestamp and value of the most recent value agrees with the graph.
# curl 'http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/esmond/perfsonar/archive/0c2116fbf85a4b78a7b1b6a8347a6e1c/throughput/base?format=json' | python -mjson.tool
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
199 199 0 199 0 0 2445 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 22111
[
{
"ts": 1441832835, # 2015-09-10 00:07:15 +0300
"val": 287318000.0
},
{
"ts": 1441836453, # 2015-09-10 01:07:33 +0300
"val": 296059000.0
},
{
"ts": 1441840091, # 2015-09-10 02:08:11 +0300
"val": 321768000.0
},
{
"ts": 1441854021, # 2015-09-10 06:00:21 +0300
"val": 334490000.0
}
]
OK, so the latest value is 334Mbps. But why am I seeing 0.700Gbps?
* Now suspicion falls on the "-r" option to the plugin. Is it averaging over a time period?
[root@maddash-uon ~]# /opt/perfsonar_ps/nagios/bin/check_throughput.pl -u http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/esmond/perfsonar/archive -w 0.8: -c 0.5: -s pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke -d pfsnr.uon-pop.n.kenet.or.ke -r 40000
PS_CHECK_THROUGHPUT UNKNOWN - Unable to find any tests with data in the given time range where source is pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke and destination is pfsnr.uon-pop.n.kenet.or.ke
[root@maddash-uon ~]# /opt/perfsonar_ps/nagios/bin/check_throughput.pl -u http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/esmond/perfsonar/archive -w 0.8: -c 0.5: -s pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke -d pfsnr.uon-pop.n.kenet.or.ke -r 50000
PS_CHECK_THROUGHPUT OK - Average throughput is 0.805Gbps | Count=1;; Min=0.804973;; Max=0.804973;; Average=0.804973;; Standard_Deviation=0;;
[root@maddash-uon ~]# /opt/perfsonar_ps/nagios/bin/check_throughput.pl -u http://pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke/esmond/perfsonar/archive -w 0.8: -c 0.5: -s pfsnr.moi-pop.e.kenet.or.ke -d pfsnr.uon-pop.n.kenet.or.ke -r 86000
PS_CHECK_THROUGHPUT WARNING - Average throughput is 0.700Gbps | Count=2;; Min=0.595423;; Max=0.804973;; Average=0.700198;; Standard_Deviation=0.148174225997641;;
But the archive doesn't have any values which could average to 0.700Gbps. And it does have figures which should be within a 50000 second window.
So probably I'm getting mixed up and looking at the wrong archive / the wrong data. However I thought I was being consistent: I was looking at the *moi* archive for the throughput from *moi* to *uon*. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Cheers,
Brian.
P.S. I would also like to display (and/or check in Nagios) the *most recent* value from the archive... but I can't see a way to do this.
Looking at -r 86400 I think the value maddash shows is the average over 24 hours. Maybe that's a reasonable thing to do - rather than going red during the day and green overnight for example - but it was not at all obvious to me that was the intentional behaviour. And if you want to use the plugin to respond quickly to network changes, you probably want the most recent value rather than a long-term average.
- [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/10/2015
- RE: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Garnizov, Ivan (RRZE), 09/10/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/20/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/20/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Andrew Lake, 09/21/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/21/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Andrew Lake, 09/21/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/20/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/20/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Andrew Lake, 09/10/2015
- Re: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Brian Candler, 09/10/2015
- RE: [perfsonar-user] maddash showing "wrong" values, Garnizov, Ivan (RRZE), 09/10/2015
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