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[Aaron Brown <>]

Hey Sebastian,

I think the bulk of the integration work is now done. I’ve added some tickets 
to cover other things that need done before the final release:

https://github.com/ndt-project/ndt/issues/178
https://github.com/ndt-project/ndt/issues/179
https://github.com/ndt-project/ndt/issues/180

I think the big thing that needs done is just testing.

Cheers,
Aaron


> On Apr 14, 2015, at 4:44 AM, Sebastian Kostuch 
> <>
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Aaron,
> would it be possible to create tickets with information what should be done 
> before NDT final release? Especially info about how the integration with 
> websocket client should look like?
> 
> Regards
> Sebastian
> 
> On 13.04.2015 21:51, Aaron Brown wrote:
>> Hey Folks,
>> 
>> I merged in the websockets branch, and did some other (crappy) integration 
>> work with the d3-based websocket client. You can see an example at 
>> http://desk179.internet2.edu:7123/
>> 
>> I’ve got RPMs and the source tarball of a tentative -rc4 at 
>> http://ndb1.internet2.edu/~aaron/ndt-3.7.0-5.el6.x86_64/
>> 
>> There’s still stuff that needs done before a final release:
>> 
>>    - Place copious warnings about the flash client
>>    - Use the flash client’s definition of “good environment”
>>    - Improve the integration a bit with the websocket client
>>    - Place copious warnings in the websocket client
>> 
>> But this is probably a reasonable -rc4 to get folks testing out the 
>> websocket client. If folks would be willing to do some testing, I’ll 
>> announce -rc4 onto ndt-users.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Aaron
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:32 AM, Sebastian Kostuch 
>>> <>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> that sounds reasonable. When can we expect then websocket changes being 
>>> merged into master and release of rc4 version?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Sebastian
>>> 
>>> On 11.04.2015 00:55, Jordan McCarthy wrote:
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>>>> I entirely agree with Peter: getting web-sockets support into the next
>>>> official release appears to be very much a win-win.  Both because the
>>>> code sounds like it's completely ready to go, and because all other
>>>> GUI-friendly tests are proving to be pretty hideously unreliable.
>>>> 
>>>> I had previously thought that we could make do by just releasing a
>>>> properly-qualified and environment-limited flash client, at least for
>>>> the time being.  But given the increased reports of bizarre numbers
>>>> coming out of the flash client (coupled with the fact that we know it
>>>> doesn't work properly on Mac OS X or Linux), it seems like we would be
>>>> remiss in not at least providing the option of running a
>>>> WebSockets-based test.
>>>> 
>>>> Jordan
>>>> 
>>>> Jordan McCarthy
>>>> Open Technology Institute @ New America
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>>>> On 04/10/2015 03:03 PM, Peter Boothe wrote:
>>>>> MLab is very excited about websockets and the javascript-only
>>>>> network tests that they enable, so if we can get websocket support
>>>>> merged into mainline NDT sooner rather than later that would be
>>>>> great.  We have found that, for an increasing number of users,
>>>>> Flash and Applets are no longer an acceptable solution - applets
>>>>> now cause horrendous security warnings and flash is disabled on an
>>>>> increasingly large number of platforms.  This leaves us a bit in
>>>>> the lurch in terms of how to get measurements from people running a
>>>>> web-browser until we get websocket support on the NDT server.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also on the positive side, the websockets branch is fully
>>>>> unit-tested and end-to-end tested ('make check' should run the
>>>>> tests on your local machine), and it looks like it can be merged
>>>>> with no conflicts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Sebastian Kostuch
>>>>> <
>>>>>  
>>>>> <mailto:>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all, it has been long time since last NDT final release and
>>>>> also preparations for this one are taking few months so far. Isn't
>>>>> then better approach to release new NDT 3.7.0 final version ASAP
>>>>> with minimal changes/fixes required to do so and after that within
>>>>> few following months make new release (3.7.1?) which would contain
>>>>> new features (websockets + there are also changes on MultiplePorts
>>>>> branch which would be good to integrate with it as well) ? Merging
>>>>> websockets now will probably make release process last longer so
>>>>> what do you think about such approach?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards Sebastian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09.04.2015 22:54, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really like this plan.  I think that by the time RC4 is out
>>>>> we'll have a pretty good javascript Websockets client assembled.
>>>>> It's already functional, but we just need to make it a bit more
>>>>> robust when it comes to error handling, and apply some general
>>>>> stylistic changes. And as you say, it is much easier to do minor
>>>>> version updates than some new release for a different feature.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Aaron Brown 
>>>>> <
>>>>> <mailto:>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Jordan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given the performance … eccentricities that have been encountered,
>>>>> we’ll need to do another -rc with some changes to the warning
>>>>> message (along with having it use the flash applet’s definition of
>>>>> ‘good environment’). Given that the WebSockets branch has been
>>>>> stable, my thought is that we could merge that in for -rc4. Then
>>>>> when we do work some more work on the websocket client, it’s just a
>>>>> minor release to update the client instead of the whole websocket
>>>>> environment too. What do others think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers, Aaron
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Peter Boothe | 
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