Grouper Developers Forum

["Michael R. Gettes" <>]

Yes, we believe adding versioning wouldn’t be hard for us right now.  but we will eventually do this… and if we have a standardized format to move to, then versioning will make it easier for us to do so.

/mrg

On Aug 14, 2014, at 3:32 PM, David Langenberg <> wrote:

Hopefully, you're still at the point that versioning can be added to your message formats, but agreed, a standard message format will be a must here.

Dave

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Michael R. Gettes <> wrote:

and getting things into grouper - we are developing a reverse process via AMQ as well.  yes, we know there are grouper-ws, but there are a variety of reasons for using AMQ for delivery, mostly because integrating via JMS and the async mechanism is more appropriate - like with OIM.  As noted, dreaming up the messages is the central issue.  I regret that with our first version of GAP we did not version stamp the messages - which is kinda important to do to evolve things smoothly.

/mrg

On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Steven Carmody <> wrote:

> On 8/14/14 11:32 AM, Michael R. Gettes wrote:
>> Thanks Tom… I do appreciate your comments.
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> Tom -- what's the process for starting the v2.3 provisioning discussion ? Are you collecting use cases ?
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>> I have expressed my comments on the spaces page about provisioning and I
>> am working with DaveL to help in learning about AMQ.  I do take the
>> perspective of the grouper team should include AMQ and concentrate on
>> providing appropriate tools for getting grouper messages to AMQ,
>> possibly in various forms.
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> There seems to be a growing number of sites that are using AMQ (or a similar system) as part of their provisioning. Here at Brown we're wondering if there's now enough experience to begin a discussion about standardizing some of the messages, and including a few "standard" connectors with a Grouper distribution ? Currently, only sites with some available programming cycles can adopt this approach; standardization might make adoption easier for additional sites.
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> Yes, I know standardization is hard. But, perhaps we can find the common 80% ?
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> Michael calls out "getting grouper messages to AMQ". I'd add that its just as important to think about msgs that get data into Grouper (real time updates from ERP systems).
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David Langenberg

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The University of Chicago