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Re: [grouper-dev] Draft Minutes: Grouper Call July 30, 2014

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  • From: "Michael R. Gettes" <>
  • To: Steve Carmody <>
  • Cc: "" <>
  • Subject: Re: [grouper-dev] Draft Minutes: Grouper Call July 30, 2014
  • Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:20:04 +0000
  • Accept-language: en-US

and getting things into grouper - we are developing a reverse process via AMQ
as well. yes, we know there are grouper-ws, but there are a variety of
reasons for using AMQ for delivery, mostly because integrating via JMS and
the async mechanism is more appropriate - like with OIM. As noted, dreaming
up the messages is the central issue. I regret that with our first version
of GAP we did not version stamp the messages - which is kinda important to do
to evolve things smoothly.


On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Steven Carmody

> On 8/14/14 11:32 AM, Michael R. Gettes wrote:
>> Thanks Tom… I do appreciate your comments.
> Tom -- what's the process for starting the v2.3 provisioning discussion ?
> Are you collecting use cases ?
>> I have expressed my comments on the spaces page about provisioning and I
>> am working with DaveL to help in learning about AMQ. I do take the
>> perspective of the grouper team should include AMQ and concentrate on
>> providing appropriate tools for getting grouper messages to AMQ,
>> possibly in various forms.
> There seems to be a growing number of sites that are using AMQ (or a
> similar system) as part of their provisioning. Here at Brown we're
> wondering if there's now enough experience to begin a discussion about
> standardizing some of the messages, and including a few "standard"
> connectors with a Grouper distribution ? Currently, only sites with some
> available programming cycles can adopt this approach; standardization might
> make adoption easier for additional sites.
> Yes, I know standardization is hard. But, perhaps we can find the common
> 80% ?
> Michael calls out "getting grouper messages to AMQ". I'd add that its just
> as important to think about msgs that get data into Grouper (real time
> updates from ERP systems).

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