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  • From: Bob Gerdes <>
  • To: Mike Carey <>
  • Cc: wg-multicast List <>
  • Subject: RE: Inauguration Day Stream(s)
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:33:40 -0500 (EST)


We posted to a series of mail lists that are meant to reach out to departments the week before. We had about 100 folks test it then with 4 noting that they had problems for which there were follow up with their IT staff asking what needed to be done to adjust their firewalls.

In addition, we posted a reminder to the mail lists on Monday so it would be there when they read their email Tuesday morning.

On inauguration day, we started with pointing folks at the Internet2 feed.
Things worked fine until about 9:30am when we had at least 120 folks testing/watching. However, we were forced to point them at a local multicast feed as our Internet2 feed was extremely poor (this was odd since our I2 handoff had not reached our max). By the time we switched,
about 300 had tried to use it. After we switched, we had over 600 watching the multicast and aside from isolated reports (firewall problems and the like), it worked well.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Mike Carey wrote:

Just curious - did you engage in any public information to encourage
people to use the Multicast option that was available?

I ask because I think we had the same issue here. Multicast traffic
increased above the norm, but it was unicast traffic that was really
took off that day. But besides the IT folks, I don't know that anyone
knew that Multicast over I2 was the preferred method to access this
media. We didn't send any media blitz to the campus newspaper, Blog
postings, or updates on Departmental websites (that I know of).

So if anyone took proactive steps to encourage the user community to use
Multicast in this situation, please share.


Michael D. Carey
Telecommunications and Networking Services
Information Technology Services
Pennsylvania State University
(814) 863-7712





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From: Ryan Harden
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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:48 PM
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Cc: Julian Y. Koh; wg-multicast List
Subject: Re: Inauguration Day Stream(s)

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We saw an increase of about 1Gbps or so over normal levels for that time
of day. Almost all of it was CNN's feed. A couple other sources showed
up in there too. We didn't have any 'pain' in any of our equipment. We
did get some fun looking graphs though. :)

Unfortunately even though we have good multicast connectivity to
Internet2, no one used it. Our traffic characterization tools didn't
show anything over baseline.

/Ryan

Bill Owens wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 04:09:53PM -0600, Julian Y. Koh wrote:
Now, we had definite pains on some of our external traffic due to the
Octoshape P2P streaming that CNN was employing, but luckily we
already had
our multicast traffic bypassing the equipment that was hurting.
Otherwise
life would have been not so good for us. As it was, the pain that
people
were experiencing with the unicast streams (and I'm including the
Octoshape
streams there as well) is going to serve as a good leverage for
publicizing
the multicast-based services.

It would have been bitterly ironic if the all-but-unannounced P2P
pseudo-multicast traffic had interfered with the one high-grade
multicast feed that was available to us.

We saw unicast traffic peaks at almost 1.2 Gbps on our egress
connections, with several campuses maxing out their connections, all
attributable to Octoshape (since NYSERNet doesn't provide transit to any
commercial streaming sources). I'm glad that the network was used, but I
do wish that they could come up with something a bit smarter.

Bill.

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CITES - Network Engineering Cell: 630-363-0365
2130 Digital Computer Lab, Fax: 217-244-7089
1304 W. Springfield email:

Urbana, IL 61801

University of Illinois - Urbana/Champaign
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