NTAC Peering Working Group

[Darrell Newcomb <>]

On Nov 5, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Michael H Lambert wrote:

> On 18 Sep 2013, at 12:42, Linda Roos 
> <>
>  wrote:
> 
>> Dear NTAC Routing and Peering Committee,
>> Attached, please find, a document on NET+ traffic on R&E routes.  This 
>> document has been reviewed by the Network Architecture, Operations and 
>> Policy Program Advisory Group (NAOPpag).  Should you have any questions or 
>> comments on the document, please let me know.  Thanks.
> 
> It's been a while and I've seen no comments, so I will do so now.  I have a 
> couple of problems with this sentence:
> 
> "While these service providers may transport some “non-research” traffic to 
> members over the network, reaching the providers over commodity paths or 
> TR-CPS paths which are provisioned like commodity paths will not achieve 
> what the community wants with NET+."
> 
> 1) Where are the data that support this claim about community expectations 
> for network performance for Net+?
> 
> 2) I view TR-CPS as being closer in performance to the R&E network than to 
> the commodity Internet.  If there is a prevailing view that TR-CPS has 
> become too "commodity-like", then perhaps what is needed is a strategic 
> review of the peer selection process, followed by a review of individual 
> peers in that context.

For point of reference TR-CPS is not very commodity-like other than in how 
the far-end networks might be described; much more R&E-like than 
commodity-like in most ways of considering those monikers.  Are there 
counter-points?  I'm sure there are, but none jump to mind that are 
inherently attached and would be more 


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Cash investment over many years might have many describe as approaching-zero, 
but I'll describe as far less than the median amount of a single-connector's 
single-year payments but over a longer period of time.

Rather than peer selection there are a number of other factors that pushing 
toward more "commodity like" aspects/outcomes.  I'll skip trying to give more 
description around some of those, but can if desired.