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  • Subject: Re: [grouper-users] PSP incremental provisioning
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Yeah, that's how it was set up, and there was no backlog, but sometimes
things were going out of the temp table but not making into the change log
table.

We've investigated this more this morning and it seems like it's working if
we add/remove a member from a provisioned group and if we add/remove a group
from a provisioned group.

It's not working when we add/remove a member from a group which is a member
of a provisioned group. For example, we might have a group representing staff
in a certain department which isn't provisioned to the AD. That group then
might be a member of another group which is provisioned to the AD. If someone
leaves the first group, they are automatically removed from the second group
in Grouper but they are not being taken out of the AD group. In those
circumstances, we see an entry in the temp table which then disappears but
nothing goes into the change log table.

Thanks
Dave

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From: Chris Hyzer
<>
Sent: 15 December 2015 22:38
To: Dave Churchley;

Subject: RE: [grouper-users] PSP incremental provisioning

You have to make sure the grouper loader is running, and there isn't a
backlog of things in the temp table. The cron in the grouper loader
properties move things from temp to change log, and kicks off loader jobs.
Not sure exactly how the PSP takes it from there, but that is the first step
:)

Thanks,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Churchley
[mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:59 PM
To: Chris Hyzer;

Subject: Re: [grouper-users] PSP incremental provisioning

Hi Chris

When it works, I see an entry in the change log temp table move to the change
log table and get provisioned to AD.

When it doesn't work, I've seen entries in change log temp which haven't made
it to the change log table (but have still gone from the temp table). I've
also seen changes not appear in either table, although I can't be completely
certain that this wasn't just that I was too slow looking in the temp table
and they'd already moved out.

On the occasions when the changes haven't made it into the change log table,
I've not seen anything in the logs.

Thanks
Dave

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From: Chris Hyzer
<>
Sent: 15 December 2015 21:01
To: Dave Churchley;

Subject: RE: [grouper-users] PSP incremental provisioning

When you make changes, do you see the entries in the change log temp table
move to the change log table? Are there debug logs in the PSP process that
show anything?

Thanks,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dave Churchley
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 2:56 PM
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Subject: [grouper-users] PSP incremental provisioning

Hello

We've had a bad couple of days with PSP provisioning to AD. Following on from
the bulkSync issues I posted about yesterday, we're now seeing some
unexpected behaviour with the incremental provisioning. It works sometimes
but other times changes made through the Grouper UI don't make it into the
change log and so are not reflected in the AD.

Is there an obvious reason for this? Am I missing something?

Thanks
Dave Churchley
Newcastle University



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