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[Chris Hyzer <>]

well, someone else from the list can chime in if I am missing something, but from my experience, a union has no advantage over a group as a member.  but a group as a member has the advantage that it is implemented such that each membership does not require another distinct row in the membership table, and of course, you dont have use a composite with just two factors, you can add as many groups or individuals to a group as you want.  For intersection and minus composites, more membership table rows is the only way to implement it efficiently.  Therefore, if we were going to design Grouper from scratch, I would recommend not having a union composite.  It was implemented originally probably because it could be.  It still exists just because we havent written a migration upgrade to get away from it.  Maybe we should have a switch so no new groups can be composite unions...

Thanks,

Chris

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From: Omaraie, Brad []
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:02 PM
To: Chris Hyzer
Cc:
Subject: Re: Composite group with more than two groups contained

Hi Chris,

Yes, we are talking union here. I tested your suggestion and it worked just fine. But when I brought up the subject with our management team here, they wanted to know what is the difference between union and group of groups then? If they are the same, why do we have them separately? In other word, what are the pros and cons of using group of groups solution vs cascaded composites?

Thanks,

Brad

From: "" <>
Date: Monday, September 2, 2013 8:08 PM
To: ucla <>
Cc: "" <>
Subject: RE: Composite group with more than two groups contained

Are you talking about union?  If it is union, you should never use union, just add the groups as members of the parent group.  Ok?

 

Are you talking about intersection?  If it is intersection, then you either need a lot of composites, or you need rules.

 

Thanks,

Chris

 

From: Omaraie, Brad []
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:29 PM
To: Chris Hyzer
Subject: Composite group with more than two groups contained

 

Hi Chris,

Just a quick question. We need to create a composite group for one of our clients that has about twelve groups included in it. By that I mean a member of each of these twelve groups should also be a member of our composite group. Currently grouper UI allows us to create a composite group from a logical combination of two groups at a time. I know we can cascade multiple composite groups and finally get to a group that has all the members of the twelve groups in it, but I was wondering is there a way that we can directly create only one composite group  containing all these groups?

 

Thanks,

Brad