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[Chris Hyzer <>]

Eventually this type of thing can be done with the PSP, or now if you write a 
plugin.  But the XML - SQL - loader - Grouper sounds fine too...  you could 
also call a web service to replace the members of a group with a list and it 
will do the appropriate adds/removes...  lots of options :)

Thanks,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Tellier 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:18 PM
To: Chris Hyzer
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Subject: Re: [grouper-users] XML Import Tool

It would be ongoing. My goal is to replace Grouper's source of data (a
DB, an LDAP, etc.) with an XML file. To put it more concretely, for
instance, when deploying Grouper with the Grouper Installer, it's
possible to load sample data from an HSQL DB. Well I'd like to swap
that DB with an XML file. Once the data will be loaded into Grouper
I'll provision it into some other destination, not back into the XML
file. Is such a thing possible?

If it's not possible, I can always write a script or something that
would populate a DB with the data contained in my XML file. I would
then do as you suggest, that is, load Grouper with the data contained
in the DB. It's not that much of a problem for me, but I was wondering
if I could skip this intermediate step.

Thanks,
--jtellier


On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Chris Hyzer 
<>
 wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> The XML import/export is intended to be used for Grouper-to-Grouper 
> syncing...
>
> Can you give some more information about what you are trying to do?
>
> Is it a one time sync, or ongoing?
>
> Grouper does not manage subjects, though we have been discussing the 
> ability to provision subjects to other systems (TomZ is that true?  Is it 
> possible now?)
>
> Have you read about the Grouper Loader?  If this is an ongoing sync, you 
> could sync to a database (the memberships) and the loader can get them from 
> there.
>
> If it is one time, you could generate a GSH script and run that.
>
> Maybe we need to setup a conference call or maybe you could join the next 
> dev call in two weeks to discuss...
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> 
>  
> [mailto:]
>  On Behalf Of Jonathan Tellier
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:05 AM
> To: 
> 
> Subject: [grouper-users] XML Import Tool
>
> Hello,
>
> I am currently evaluating the possibility of using XML files as a
> source for subject and group data. This data will then provisioned to
> another system. After reading about the XML Import/Export tool [1] and
> after finding a sample XML import file [2] that is possibly outdated
> (it was linked from an archived page), I've came to the conclusion
> that what I'm trying to achieve is not possible. The doc about the XML
> Import/Export tool specifies that the subjects must be resolvable
> (i.e. present in one of my Grouper's source) and the sample XML file
> does not contain any subject information. Is that the right conclusion
> ? If not, where can I find a sample XML file that is not outdated (if
> the file is outdated) and/or documentation describing the format that
> such a file must have? Is my best bet to develop an XML connector that
> could load subjects and groups data from XML files ?
>
> Thanks,
> --jtellier
>
>
> [1] https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Import-Export
> [2] 
> https://spaces.internet2.edu/download/attachments/14517689/xml-tool-quickstart.xml?version=1&modificationDate=1150478649938