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[Martin Feller <>]

On 2/1/11 3:37 PM, Tom Zeller wrote:
> Versions of ldappc prior to 1.5 have bugs which may be undesirable for you.
> 
> Is upgrading Grouper possible ?

I once tried to drop in a newer version of grouper into GridGrouper, just to 
try it.
It didn't work (not even v1.2).
I can't imagine that GridGrouper will change to a newer version, because the 
cagrid
software stack (which contains GridGrouper) is changing at the moment.
So changing the version of grouper is, unfortunately, not an option for us 
right now.

> Upgrading from 1.1 will require changes to your database.

There is probably not something like a database conversion tool, which 
converts a grouper 1.1
database into a grouper 1.5 database or such, is there?

>  For 1.6, Chris has an Atlassian connector :
>  https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/Grouper/Grouper+Atlassian+connector
> 

That sounds more elegant than the LDAP route, at least if the Atlassian tools
are the only ones consuming the grouper data. Yet again, version 1.1... :)

> Documentation for "old" versions of ldappc are here :
> 
>  https://wiki.internet2.edu/confluence/display/i2miCommon/Ldappc

Thanks, I'll have a look.

> 
> It is probably possible to write an ldappcng plugin for Grouper version 1.1.

Yeah, let's see. I guess I need to try it out.
Seems like there is no easy route.

Thanks for the input!

-Martin

> 
> TomZ
> 
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Martin Feller 
> <>
>  wrote:
>> Ok, I found this in the documentation archives for v1.1:
>>
>> "With the 1.0 release, Grouper includes an XML import and export tool that 
>> can be used for episodic or
>> periodic provisioning of group info to other contexts. The GrouperShell 
>> can likewise be used to load and
>> retrieve group information. But there is as yet no near-real-time 
>> "provisioning connector" that can update
>> LDAP directories or other run-time security infrastructure services. This 
>> is perhaps the leading need of the
>> Grouper Project at this time. But several early adopter universities have 
>> this need, and we expect to net
>> at least one provisioning connector or other run-time interface (eg, 
>> perhaps a web services interface) for
>> Grouper as a product of their efforts."
>>
>> That seems to tell me that the LDAPPC didn't exist in that version. Is 
>> that correct?
>> Does anybody see a way to get the data into LDAP with existing tools?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> On 2/1/11 3:16 PM, Martin Feller wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We have grouper running under the hood of a GridGrouper service here. The 
>>> grouper version used by GridGrouper is 1.1.
>>> We try to provision the grouper data to LDAP so that it can be consumed 
>>> by crowd (Atlassian).
>>> Does the LDAP provisioning connector exist for that version of grouper, 
>>> or was it added later?
>>> If it exists, are there by chance still any doc pointers for that version?
>>> Or can I use a later version of the LDAPPC (say 1.5+), or is there a 
>>> mismatch with the underlying grouper database schema?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Martin
>>
>>