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- From: Chris Hyzer <>
- To: Niels van Dijk <>, "" <>
- Subject: RE: [grouper-dev] federated grouper
- Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:52:29 -0400
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Ø Why not add an
additional LDAP for storing external users? For ldap many provisioning stuff
already exists. I added a note to the document
that the storage should be pluggable, then it can use ldap Ø As a suggestion
to Phase2 'invites with group provisioning': the ability to upload a CSV
containing the people to be invited. This is convenient if you need to add 10+
people. I put a note that multiple
emails should be able to be entered at once Ø Also, we had a
people picker, but decided that it was a better idea, from privacy viewpoint ,
that a person should be invited via his/her email address only. This way there
has to be some 'out of band' mechanism for the inviter to get these adresses,
and also the chance of being invited to a group by accident e.g.by
selecting the wrong person from the list is much smaller. I think most people will want to
use it like that. Tom mentioned entering id’s since the admin might know
the id… hmmm Ø If you still
want a people picker after the above point ;) I would suggest displaying both
the name of the users as well as the institution, as many John Doe's may exist Yes, the deployer should have a
descriptive description of the subject
Ø - One thing that
seems required is the ability to have globally unique grouper instances. Also
the 'source' of the group needs to be somehow expressed towards the application
consuming the group relation, otherwise it cannot distinguish between
'admin' of uniA and admin at uniB Not exactly sure what you mean
here, but I would assume only certain subject sources will be synced, and I
would assume in the other institution the “external subjects” will
need to exist or be synced as well. I added that to the doc. Ø - The current
proposal suggests the actual provisioning of user(s) and groups from grouperA
-> grouperB. Keeping stuff in sync this way is tricky. Is it also possible
to just query remote servers, so the process of linking group severs could be 'live'?
The WS API of grouper would be able to do this nicely I think? We discussed that on the paccman call today. It seems the future is in the real time access… if the concern is things are not in sync, then I think the incremental provisioning should handle it. It should take a few minutes to process, but changes will propagate… anyways, dynamic groups have been mentioned before, and this seems like a good place to use them, so we will keep considering this. I added a proxy note on the doc about this.
Thanks! Chris |
- [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Chris Hyzer, 08/02/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Niels van Dijk, 08/05/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Peter Schober, 08/05/2010
- RE: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Chris Hyzer, 08/05/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Tom Barton, 08/06/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Jim Fox, 08/06/2010
- RE: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Chris Hyzer, 08/08/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Jim Fox, 08/06/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Tom Barton, 08/06/2010
- Re: [grouper-dev] federated grouper, Niels van Dijk, 08/05/2010
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