Presence and IntComm WG

[Peter Saint-Andre <>]

Hi Jesse,

Mark's summary is good -- BuddyCloud is basically a way to do federated
activity streams. It just happens to use XMPP as its underlying
technology for federation, with a web front end.

As to their profit model, you could ask Simon Tennant, who was on the
call the other day. I've cc'd him here.

Peter

On 2/22/12 9:34 AM, Jesse Thompson wrote:
> Ah, I see.  I'm playing around with the beta now.  Pretty neat.  What is
> BuddyCloud's profit model?
> 
> Jesse
> 
> On 2/22/12 9:31 AM, Peter Saint-Andre (psaintan) wrote:
>> Jesse, I see buddycloud as an XMPP enhancement - it installs as an
>> external component - that could integrate with Sakai or Moodle.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:20 AM, "Jesse
>> Thompson"<>
>>   wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I regret that I didn't participate in the last wg-pic conference
>>> call. It sounds like it was an interesting topic.  See the message
>>> below from Jeanne regarding Wisconsin's interest in Sakai.  Keep me
>>> posted about any initiatives regarding Sakai, BuddyCloud, and XMPP.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to define the line between where I should be involved vs.
>>> when I should punt to Jeanne and Scott.  I focus on communication and
>>> collaboration infrastructure technology (email, calendaring, chat,
>>> etc), and Jeanne focuses more on academic learning technology
>>> (Desire2Learn, Moodle, etc).
>>>
>>>  From my initial glance at these products, it appears that Sakai is
>>> something that I wouldn't be involved with, unless there is a way for
>>> Sakai to be installed on top of our existing XMPP infrastructure.
>>> BuddyCloud looks like it could be an additional service offering in
>>> my area, but I can't tell how much it overlaps with our existing XMPP
>>> infrastructure.  Am I on the right track?
>>>
>>> Do you have any details on how Sakai and/or BuddyCloud would use
>>> existing XMPP infrastructure?  Or is XMPP merely the technology that
>>> Sakai and BuddyCloud use as their transports?  Another way to ask:
>>> are these services something that would replace our existing XMPP
>>> service (p2p chat, muc), enhance the feature set, or something that
>>> an organization would run alongside and independent of a traditional
>>> XMPP service?
>>>
>>> Jesse
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Sakai
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:59:21 -0600
>>> From: Jeanne 
>>> Blochwitz<>
>>> To: Jesse 
>>> Thompson<>
>>> CC: Scott 
>>> Fullerton<>
>>>
>>> Jesse,
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in finding out more on the discussion
>>> about federation of activity streams - this is of interest in
>>> Learning Analytics - an emerging area.  Scott Fullerton and I
>>> recently looked into the technical specifications for Sakai.  I would
>>> be interested in finding out more about developments around
>>> integration of activity streams with Sakai.
>>>
>>> As far as what DoIT is pursuing with Sakai, there are no current
>>> projects, but I have been asked to work with Scott Fullerton to look
>>> into a potential pilot for Sakai.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeanne Blochwitz
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Jesse Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeanne,
>>>>
>>>> Is Sakai a product that DoIT is pursuing in any extent?
>>>>
>>>> My contact at the XMPP foundation (WiscChat is an XMPP service)
>>>> contacted me about a discussion he had with people from Internet2 and
>>>> BuddyCloud regarding federation of activity streams across
>>>> educational institutions, perhaps including integration with the
>>>> Sakai Project.
>>>>
>>>> Jesse
>>>>