Presence and IntComm WG

["Michael R. Gettes" <>]

If nobody wants to rise up with the "raising of the bar" then you have
learned a lot about the service you can offer.  This is known as being
"market driven".  There is nothing preventing you from offering tiered
services all under the brand of PIC.edu, is there?

/mrg

On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:04, Deke Kassabian wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I know we have an upcoming call this Thursday.  I'm hoping we can  
> finish up or at least continue the discussion we started two  
> Thursdays ago when Peter Saint-Andre and Michael Gettes joined the  
> call to help us discuss goals and approaches to federation of  
> PIC.edu implementations on member campuses.
>
> Here's where I think we are...
>
> The major goals when considering federations was, I think, identity  
> assurance in an inter-institutional way, and IM spam (spim) avoidance.
>
> The majority of those expressing an opinion, notably including  
> Rodney McDuff (before the call), Peter Saint-Andre and Michael  
> Gettes all appear to be recommending a very "low hurdle" for a  
> variety of good reasons.  I think I'm coming around to this notion.   
> If PIC.edu had guidelines to those deploying, advice and best  
> practices, perhaps we could avoid technical barriers to entry that  
> will only tend to frustrate users and organizations and accomplish  
> little.
>
> I think the goals are good goals.  I guess I'm concerned that if  
> there's no hurdle at all and we want to create one or raise the bar  
> a bit later we'll have trouble doing so.  That is, those who  
> deployed PIC.edu with us in the early days but are unable or  
> unwilling to get slightly more strict in terms of user  
> authentication, chasing misbehaving users, or (much later) inter- 
> institutional server-to-server authentication will make it harder  
> for us to achieve this higher level without considering "kicking  
> folks out" of PIC.edu.
>
> Can we take that up in Thursday's discussion?
>
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> Deke Kassabian,  Senior Technology Director
> Information Systems and Computing, University of Pennsylvania
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