Presence and IntComm WG

["Ben Chinowsky" <>]

*Action Items as of September 27*

(high priority)
[ACTION] (9/21) Ben T. will email Clique about getting some licenses.
[ACTION] (9/21) Ben T. will look into getting student coding resources for
porting the presence agent.
[ACTION] (9/7) Mark will post his presence-agent code on the web.
[ACTION] (9/7) Mark will resend jabberwocky account holders their jabberwocky
account info, and note what they will need to experiment with the presence 
agent
(e.g., what version of python is needed).
[ACTION] (9/7) Ben T. will talk to Candace and Rodger about doing some
presence-agent testing.
[ACTION] (8/31) Rodger will schedule an evening PIC WG meeting at the
Internet2 Member Meeting.
[ACTION] (8/31) Dennis will contact Skyhook for more information.
[ACTION] (8/24 - in progress) Ben T. will contact the Galago developers to 
find
out how the presence-agent project could make use of Galago.
[ACTION] (8/24 - in progress) Mark will see if he can find interest in the
presence-agent project on the Psi developers' list.
[ACTION] (8/3) Joe will update the group on work in IETF SIMPLE, after he
talks to Jon Peterson at VON.
[ACTION] (8/3) Rodger will launch an email discussion of if and how to fix 
pals
and pals-dev.
[ACTION] (8/3) Rodger will send out pointers to an assortment of XMPP-client
feature-comparison matrices, highlighting items of particular interest or
concern to the group.
[ACTION] (8/3) Rodger will revise his Gaim setup instructions.
[ACTION] (5/18) Ben T. will post the calendar-integration code (written by his
2005 SoC student) on the Penn XMPP server; Mark will evaluate prospects for
modifying it to drive XMPP presence.
[ACTION] (5/11) Ben T. will look for students active in Place Lab to
work with PIC.

(medium priority)
[ACTION] (8/3) Rodger will put a discussion of current vendor offerings in the
location-services space on the agenda for a future call.
[ACTION] (pre-12/8 - in progress) Rodger and Joe will write up some use cases
for enterprise federations.

*Attendees*

Ben Teitelbaum (acting chair) - Internet2
Rodger Will (chair) - Ford
Mark Sirota - Penn
Deke Kassabian - Penn
Dennis Baron - MIT
Neal McBurnett - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Ben T. gave a quick overview of the recent VON, describing it as one of the 
best
he's been to. Attendance was up to about 10,000. Many were drawn to the 
meeting
by a growing focus on TV-over-IP; P2P TV-over-IP was particularly prominent.

One of the groups Ben talked to at VON was Clique Communications
(http://www.cliquecom.com/). The Clique Video Phone (Windows-only so far)
uses both SIP and XMPP, each in the areas where it is strongest. Antepo is
one possible backend for Clique, and Clique has expressed interest in
the possibility of PIC working on an open-source reference server. Deke 
pointed
out that Clique's approach is one that PIC has already talked through; there 
was
strong interest in experimenting with the Clique software. [ACTION] Ben T. 
will
email Clique about getting some licenses. Dennis noted that the Eyeball
Messenger SDK also supports both SIP and XMPP; see
http://eyeball.com/products/mess_sdk.html.

Deke asked if Internet2 would be able to find a student to port Mark's 
presence
agent to Windows. Mark would define the architecture for the student to code 
to,
and specify what applications and API to pull data from. [ACTION] Ben T. will
look into getting student coding resources for porting the presence agent.