Presence and IntComm WG

[Ben Teitelbaum <>]

John-Paul Robinson 
<>
 writes:

> I'm still running jabber deployment in my lab, it's open to anyone at UAB 
> though there are only a few takers.  
>
> I've been eager to test the connectivity but don't know any google XMPP 
> users.   Anyone interested in sending me a hello.
>
>   jabberid: 
> 

John-Paul and Heather,

A few minutes ago, I sent contact invitations to each of you from
.
  I've received no responses yet; but when/if I do,
we can run through a few basic IM&P tests together.

-- ben


>
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Heather Flanagan wrote:
>
>> Folks at Duke are still running a jabber server.  We saw the  
>> announcement, but so far haven't seen much (any!) interaction with  
>> Google Talk yet.  I suspect it will come before too long.  All things  
>> considered, it should Just Work (tm). :-)
>> 
>> Heather Flanagan
>> Senior Manager, OIT-CSI-Collaborative Systems
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:37 PM, Ben Teitelbaum wrote:
>> 
>> > Five months after Neal sent the last message to this list, Google
>> > Talk's open XMPP federation is live [1]!
>> >
>> > Who from the I2MM group is still running a Jabber server?  What has
>> > been the experience interop'ing with Google Talk thus far?
>> >
>> > -- ben
>> >
>> > 1.  
>> > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/open-federation-for-google- 
>> > talk.html
>> >
>> > Neal McBurnett 
>> > <>
>> >  writes:
>> >
>> >> Google has stepped into the IM and voice call markets, using
>> >> XMPP/jabber, with SIP support on the way.  They're working on a
>> >> federation with policies to allow open interoperability but curtail
>> >> spam and protect privacy.  It will be interesting to follow this.
>> >>
>> >> Neal McBurnett                 http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/
>> >> Signed and/or sealed mail encouraged.  GPG/PGP Keyid: 2C9EBA60
>> >>
>> >> http://www.google.com/talk/about.html
>> >>
>> >> http://www.google.com/talk/developer.html
>> >> excerpts:
>> >>
>> >>  "Google Talk uses the standard XMPP protocol for authentication,
>> >>  presence, and messaging"
>> >>  TLS is required   The only supported authentication mechanism is  
>> >> SASL PLAIN
>> >>  We plan to support SIP in a future release
>> >>
>> >>  Google Talk currently does not encrypt chats or calls. But we are
>> >>  working hard to make many improvements to Google Talk while it is in
>> >>  beta, and we plan to fully support encryption of chats and calls
>> >>  before our official release.
>> >>
>> >>  What protocols are used for voice calls?
>> >>  Google Talk supports a custom XMPP-based signaling protocol and
>> >>  peer-to-peer communication mechanism. We will fully document this
>> >>  protocol. In the near future, we plan to support SIP signaling.
>> >>
>> >>  Today, Google Talk supports the following standard voice codecs:
>> >>  PCMA, PCMU, G.723, iLBC. We are also evaluating the Speex codec. We
>> >>  also support codecs from Global IP Sound: ISAC, IPCMWB, EG711U,  
>> >> EG711A
>> >>
>> >>  We are working closely with Earthlink and Sipphone to federate
>> >>  EarthLink's Vling service and Sipphone's Gizmo Project with the
>> >>  Google Talk service as quickly as possible
>> >>
>> >>  it is important to balance openness with ensuring that we
>> >>  maintain a safe and reliable service that protects user privacy and
>> >>  blocks spam and other abuses. We are using the federation opportunity
>> >>  with EarthLink and Sipphone to develop a set of guidelines by which
>> >>  all members of the federated network can work together to ensure that
>> >>  we protect our users while maximizing the reach of the network. We
>> >>  are also eager to hear from other people in the industry about how
>> >>  best to build a federation model that is open, scalable, and ensures
>> >>  best-in-class user experiences. If you have thoughts on federation or
>> >>  suggestions for how we can better enable open communications, please
>> >>  share them with us at the Google Talk Interoperability Google Group.
>> >>
>> >>   http://groups.google.com/group/google-talk-open
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Ben Teitelbaum   http://people.internet2.edu/~ben/
>> 
>
>

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