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Re: [MBONED] BCP 229, RFC 8815 on Deprecating Any-Source Multicast (ASM) for Interdomain Multicast


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  • From: Bill Owens <>
  • To: Michael H Lambert <>, wg-multicast <>
  • Subject: Re: [MBONED] BCP 229, RFC 8815 on Deprecating Any-Source Multicast (ASM) for Interdomain Multicast
  • Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:01:54 +0000
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IIRC the decision of whether to use unicast or multicast reachability for RPF
checks is different per vendor, and at least sometimes configurable. Juniper
always wanted multicast, Cisco would use multicast but fall back to unicast.
Maybe. That's a very old memory.

Anyway, I haven't cleaned up multicast BGP yet since that's pretty invasive,
but I have torn out PIM from all the client ports and some of the backbone,
along with IGMP/MLD. The other day I ran into an interface complaining about
MLD version mismatch and it was oddly satisfying to just delete the protocol
entirely instead of having to fix it.

Bill.

On 8/28/20, 9:44 AM, " on behalf of
Michael H Lambert" < on behalf of
> wrote:

A point which has never been completely clear to me (since I admit to
having thought about multicast as little as possible the past decade) is
whether the multicast SAFI is still needed when doing SSM. RFC 8815
doesn't mention this, but RFC 8313 (BCP for SSM) suggests it may still
be needed. I had thought it was just used for ASM RPF checking, but I
could be mistaken.

Michael

Bill Owens wrote on 2020-08-28 06:15:
> That's because you're doing a (*,G) join to the dirges stream.
>
> (In another age I would have set up a loop of dirges on a utility
machine somewhere, but I've already ripped most of the multicast config out
of our network. All inter-domain multicast is deprecated.)
>
> Bill.




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