wg-multicast - Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)]
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- From: Bill Nickless <>
- To: David Meyer <>
- Cc: John Zwiebel <>, "Lucy E. Lynch" <>, Marshall Eubanks <>, Bill Owens <>, ,
- Subject: Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)]
- Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:05:47 -0500
At 01:29 PM 5/13/2002 -0700, David Meyer wrote:
If ASM is going away, should we give up on MSDP (from the
standards perspective)? I'm struggling with this problem right
now. If we give up, what should we do with (i). what's deployed,
and (ii). the current spec?
As always, opinions and advice greatly appreciated.
Dave
My opinion:
- To solve the long-term problem, draft a new multicast service
model to obsolete RFC-1112. I might know someone who's taken
a stab at that already. :-)
Include in that service model the reality that IPv4 interdomain
multicast routing uses (S,G)-rooted distribution trees, and that
the interdomain internetwork must know of all (potentially) active
sources and interested receivers before the (S,G)-rooted
distribution tree is created and packets can flow.
SSM meets that criteria by requiring receivers to explicitly name
potential sources.
ASM meets that criteria by the network spreading knowledge of active
sources through MSDP.
(This is an MBONED function, I think.)
- In the final MSDP RFC, an implementation MUST accept encapsulated
data from its peers. An implementation SHOULD NOT transit that
traffic to its peers; instead, it should remove the encapsulated
data and send zero as the data length.
Specifically, in draft -13 section 16.2.1 the outgoing IPv4
Source-Active TLV Length y SHOULD be zero, and encapsulated
data SHOULD NOT follow.
(That's my bow to the reality of existing implementations that
think they must encapsulate data outbound.)
My $0.02.
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- Re: (MSDP problems in the internet) USA WNY-HPNVI 24/7 Live Surgery at 1330 EST, Lucy E. Lynch, 05/13/2002
- Re: multicast: Re: (MSDP problems in the internet) USA WNY-HPNVI 24/7 Live Surgery at 1330 EST, Hans Kuhn, 05/13/2002
- Re: (MSDP problems in the internet) USA WNY-HPNVI 24/7 Live Surgery at 1330 EST, John Zwiebel, 05/13/2002
- MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], David Meyer, 05/13/2002
- Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], John Zwiebel, 05/13/2002
- Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], David Meyer, 05/13/2002
- Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], Toerless Eckert, 05/13/2002
- Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], Bill Nickless, 05/13/2002
- Re: MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], John Zwiebel, 05/13/2002
- MSDP and the standards process [was Re: (MSDP problems.....)], David Meyer, 05/13/2002
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