Registry Working Group

[Alan Whinery <>]

I think that responses may have gotten waylaid by the holidays, to some 
extent.

I'm glad to have out-waited Bill, because letting him talk first usually 
saves me a lot of trouble.

What I'd like to see is a concise BCP reference for someone newly 
encountering the whole IRR, MANRS, etc. stuff that we've all been 
meaning to catch up on, in place. I don't know if that's a working 
group, or a project, I'm guessing it's a working group, because one 
would need revisions. If we can point at a university-focused (and lab 
focused and RON focused) reference, mission accomplished. But unlike the 
typical working group, there should be a tangible, organized reference 
doc. Page one should be organized to initiate someone who has not yet 
acclimated in the echo chamber.

On 1/8/2019 10:19 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

> Replying to your original email to make things simpler but acknowledging it 
> was your reminder just now that got me to do it...
>
> > On 12/14/18, 3:34 PM, 
> "
>  on behalf of Michael H Lambert" 
> <
>  on behalf of 
> >
>  wrote:
> >      All,
> >      
> >      In a fit of non-lucidity I told Dale I would be willing to chair the IRR working group.  I've been remiss in sending out an initial message, but here goes.
> >      
> >      I'll throw out some discussion points for possible directions for the group.  I figure we can schedule a call for sometime in early January to provide some focus to what I'm sure will show up on > this list.  I expect a lot of this to mesh nicely with points on Grover's agenda for the Global Summit MANRS workshop.
> >      
> >      o Motivation for using IRR.  Potential loss of peering with Google and Cloudflare is significant, but that isn't the only reason.
>      
> Honestly, for me the threat of losing connections to Google *is* the only reason. I didn't know Cloudflare was potentially in the mix as well, but they're important too. I've managed to survive this long without any serious use of IRR and I don't see any advantages to it; the records I have are because they're what my ISPs require me to have. I make no use of them.
>
> >      o How-Tos for various aspects of IRR.  Working with registries, tools, 
> > etc.
>      
> YES. I don't know what I'm doing with IRR, and the documentation I've found is all about how it could be used, not how it is used. I want the absolute minimum configuration that will let me keep Google/Cloudflare/whoever happy. If there's additional configuration that keeps us in good standing with the MANRS world, that's fine too.
>
> >      o Perhaps this would culminate with a white paper on best practices.
> >      
> >      Is concluding the group by the end of June realistic?  It's not supposed to be long-lived.
>      
> I just looked at the Google peering portal and don't see anything about IRR, or any complaints about my lack of a coherent IRR configuration. Apparently the January 1 deadline, wasn't. I'm glad, since doing actual work on the network has been keeping us plenty busy without adding make-work, but I do wonder that we haven't heard anything more from Google about this.
>
> Bill.