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- From: Dan McLaughlin <>
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- Subject: Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3
- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:32:56 -0500
It is my finding that as of Shibboleth SP 2.4.2 the default behavior
of the MetadataGenerator no-longer complies with the GFIPM
Cryptographic Trust Model requirements:
"6. Two <KeyDescriptor> elements MUST be present within
<SPSSODescriptor>. One <KeyDescriptor> element MUST specify the
signing key for this SP, and the value of its use attribute MUST be
“signing.” The other <KeyDescriptor> element MUST specify the
encryption key for this SP, and the value of its use attribute must be
“encryption.”"
--
Thanks,
Dan McLaughlin
Technology Consortium, LLC
http://www.tech-consortium.com
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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:13 AM,
<>
wrote:
> I'm not sure the GFIPM specs are wrong, they are just more constrained than
> the SAML specs. The SAML specs allow duplication of the certificates with
> use tags or no duplication and no use tags. I think any product that is
> conformant with the SAML spec should conform with the GFIPM spec; at least
> that was our intent when we developed the GFPM specs. The additional
> constraints are intended to simplify interoperability testing. Those
> specific issues regarding how the federation publishes it's SAML 2 Metadata
> seem like very much a federation specific issue. It won't be uncommon for
> a federation to have additional requirements for the contents of the SAML 2
> Metadata for a given entity for various reasons (from something as simple
> as mandating points of contact to more complex and requiring specific
> profile support).
>
> Shibboleth is compatible with the GFIPM specs (as far as I have tested),
> those requiremnts as met by Shibboleth (both IDP and SP) are about
> consuming metadata.
>
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> Subject: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3
>
> Today, while working on a Novell Access Manager IDP 3.1.3 & Shibboleth
> SP 2.4.2 interop, we ran into issues using encrypted assertions
> because NAM was expecting two KeyDescriptor's--one with the
> KeyDescriptor use="signing" and a second KeyDescriptor
> use="encryption".
>
> Prior to upgrading to Shibboleth SP 2.4.2, the SP metadata included
> two KeyDescriptor's within the SPSSODescriptor element. One
> KeyDescriptor included the optional use attribute for signing, and the
> other KeyDescriptor included the optional use attribute for
> encrypting. As of SP 2.4.2 the default behavior of the
> MetadataGenerator has changed so the SPSSODescriptor element only
> includes one KeyDescriptor element and the optional "use" attribute is
> no-longer defined.
>
> It's my understanding, that as of Shibboleth SP 2.4.2 the use
> attribute has been removed because it's unnecessary based on the SAML
> 2.0 specification. I was able to find the SAML V2.0 Metadata
> Specification
> (http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/v2.0/saml-metadata-2.0-os.pdf),
> which states that the "use" attribute is optional. I also found the
> SAML V2.0 Errata
> (http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/v2.0/sstc-saml-approved-errata-2.0.pdf),
> which states "If the use attribute is omitted, then the contained key
> information is applicable to both of the above uses."
>
> The SAML 2.0 Metadata specification and SAML 2.0 Errata both seem
> support the new behavior of the latest SP MetadataGenerator, so it
> would seem that NAM's current interpretation of the specification is
> incorrect.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> While researching the issue above I stumbled across a recently release
> document "GFIPM Cryptographic Trust Model"
> (http://it.ojp.gov/docdownloader.aspx?ddid=1338) which supports the
> previous SP behavior and NAM's current behavior, but directly
> contradicts the SAML 2.0 Metadata specification, the SAML 2.0 Errata,
> and the recent change made in SP 2.4.2.
>
> "Two <KeyDescriptor> elements MUST be present within
> <SPSSODescriptor>. One <KeyDescriptor> element MUST specify the
> signing key for this SP, and the value of its use attribute MUST be
> “signing.” The other <KeyDescriptor> element MUST specify the
> encryption key for this SP, and the value of its use attribute must be
> “encryption.”"
>
> It seems that the GFIPM Cryptographic Trust Model requirements are
> based on the behavior of the previous release of the Shibboleth SP and
> not necessarily GFIPM's interpretation of the SAML 2.0 specification.
>
> Question...
>
> Does the GFIPM Cryptographic Trust Model requirements need to be fixed
> or does Shibboleth 2.4.2 no-longer meet the requirements?
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan McLaughlin
> Technology Consortium, LLC
>
> http://www.tech-consortium.com
>
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- [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Dan McLaughlin, 04/20/2011
- RE: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Jeff.Krug, 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Dan McLaughlin, 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Cantor, Scott E., 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Dan McLaughlin, 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Peter Schober, 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Dan McLaughlin, 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Cantor, Scott E., 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Cantor, Scott E., 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Russ Allbery, 04/23/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Dan McLaughlin, 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Cantor, Scott E., 04/20/2011
- Re: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Dan McLaughlin, 04/20/2011
- RE: [Shib-Dev] SP 2.4.2 & Novell Access Manager 3.1.3, Jeff.Krug, 04/20/2011
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