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  • From: Chad La Joie <>
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  • Subject: Re: [Shib-Dev] [IdPv3] Consent Engine Work
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:09:37 -0400
  • Organization: Itumi, LLC



On 6/10/10 10:01 AM, Scott Cantor wrote:
Also, it would be possible to bring up the consent page even if the IdP
wasn't pushing attributes. So you could ask the user's consent for the
attributes that would be pulled by the SP. Not sure if this is
desirable. It is still obviously mutually exclusive with the "always
ask" option and in theory IdP deployers can create filter policies that
would return different results for push vs pull, but I doubt anyone has
ever done that.

The back channel thing also answers my question about use of cookies to
track consent (as in, probably not a good idea).

Per our chat discussion, I do favor the idea of allowing a non-database
storage option based on the clustering/replication code and supporting some
degree of persistence there.

My justification for that is to encourage deployment of consent, which I
think is required to make federation scale, without running into the same
deployment problems that have hindered pairwise IDs.

Yeah, I understood your reason for asking. In some ways it's really a no-win situation. A lot of people are comfortable throwing up a database of some sort but DBs are really hard to make resilient to failures without paying people like IBM and Oracle lots of money. People are less comfortable setting up or changing their LDAP but LDAP directories are relatively easy to make resilient (even though an astounding number of people don't do this). The clustering solution we're looking at is easy to deploy, is resilient by definition, and doesn't require people to really do anything but you lose any sort of general query language like SQL and LDAP filters with which you might do reporting.
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