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  • From: "Josh Howlett" <>
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  • Cc: "Josh Howlett" <>
  • Subject: RE: Dynamic Federation
  • Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:26:44 -0000

> I find their approach to discovery even more interesting. I
> don't think an SP can derive a user's IdP from their e-mail
> address in general.

I thought SAML 2.0 already supported this kind of operation? (eg.
SAMLMeta2 section 4.2.2.2)

> Suppose, however, the SP obtains a valid
> e-mail address from the user directly and then persists a
> mapping from this e-mail address to a persistent identifier
> (ePPN or ePTID) asserted by the IdP. Then the SP *can*
> determine the user's IdP from an input e-mail address.
> It's kinda like OpenID's approach to discovery, but using
> e-mail addresses instead of URLs (which may even be more
> palatable to users).

My own opinion - for what it's worth, probably not a lot - is that
Ping's proposal throws the baby out with the bathwater. Yes, it's
possible to reduce SAML to something that acts a lot like OpenID - but
do you really want it to?

josh.

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