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RE: Work items, next W2K+ target package


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  • Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:55:38 -0500

At 4:41 PM -0500 11/14/03, Scott Cantor wrote:
> 1) support for htaccess-style access control. This would allow the
local administrator to create access control policy, on a per
directory basis. Directives would be similar to/the same as those
supported by the apache version of the shibboleth target. The rules

I believe the goal here should be compatibility with Apache .htaccess files.

> would be maintained using a) a text editor? or b) some sort of new
GUI tool?. The policy file for a directory (the set of rules) would
be stored as a text file in the directory itself. One result of this
work would be the ability to create rules granting access to uses who
are NOT in the local AD.

We need to be careful talking about AD...I think it's out of scope to even
address integration with the standard IIS security model or shadow accounts
(the way MIT-based authn works in Windows). That may mean .NET is also
impossible to address.

I'd agree 100% -- that at this point, we want to steer VERY clear of the standard IIS model, and the other "best practice" model. I mentioned AD in order to (begin to) differentiate our htaccess based approach from the standard approach -- did I end up just confusing the issue?


2) Integrate support for managing the shib configuration into the
standard IIS management GUI. Currently, the Shib target configuration
files are managed by editing text files. The config directives still
have to be stored in text files. But, we'd like some BLAH (is modules
the right word?) that plug into the IIS management console, would
behave consistently with the other management console plugins, and
would allow a sysadmin to manage the Shib target config.

The main options here are:

- a stand-alone GUI that just helps manage the Shib/IIS config data
- a library and property pages that implement the IIS management COM
interfaces, appearing within the IIS console, possibly also storing some
config data in the IIS metabase

I think I've heard option 2 mentioned more often that option one ...not that a lot of people experience here, or have expressed opinions.....


3) Improved installer package. (specifics?)

The additional work would be doing web server configuration stuff during
install and possibly prompting for more information, generating keys/certs,
etc. I would say we need this just as much on Unix too.

5) dynamic content (eg a library to be used from asp). -- Actually,
should we ask the shib-users list about this one -- what would they
want? And try to measure how strongly people feel about needing this?

This is a similar set of issues to the Java target, but with the difference
that we could probably slap COM interfaces on what we have and it would
connect to ASP. Still need to address, IMHO, whether lazy session startup
would be enough for 90% of these cases. The big argument seems to be that
getting a site to install a filter isn't always possible.


I suspect we'd also have to provide access to an RM engine of some sort... even if its crude....



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