perfSONAR User Q&A and Other Discussion

[Hyojoon Kim <>]

Michael, 

Yes, it seems to be a bit of a mystery. Thanks for the update! I will try a 
bit more and let the list know if I come up with something.  

Thanks,
Joon 

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Michael Johnson 
> <>
>  wrote:
> 
> Joon,
> 
> I just checked with the person who set up that Liva (and several others) 
> and he said he didn't have to do anything in particular as far as booting 
> goes. But, he has had mixed experiences where some will boot headlessly, 
> while others won't. Seems a bit mysterious. 
> He did say that sometimes hooking a keyboard/monitor up, then booting, and 
> then trying again, it may start working. So, you could try a few more times 
> and see that gets you anywhere. We're definitely seeing mixed results on 
> this issue.
> 
> - Michael
> 
> On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 07:17:33PM +0000, Hyojoon Kim wrote:
>> Hello Michael,
>> 
>> That would be awesome. Thanks!
>> 
>> Just FYI, playing with the grub file did not work for me 
>> (http://superuser.com/questions/746803/how-to-turn-a-desktop-linux-box-headless).
>>  Maybe there are other tricks that I don’t know.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joon
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Michael Johnson 
>>> <>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Joon,
>>> 
>>> For what it's worth, I know people are booting these headless. There's 
>>> one in my office that will boot without a monitor, but I didn't set it 
>>> up, so I am not sure if any special steps were taken to make it boot that 
>>> way. I'll see if I can find anything out.
>>> 
>>> - Michael
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 07:02:44PM +0000, Hyojoon Kim wrote:
>>>> Hello Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, I see. Thanks for the heads up! You just saved my time attempting 
>>>> this.
>>>> 
>>>> I was even thinking of trying CentOS, but I just found this review post 
>>>> about the product on Amazon, which points out the eMMC storage detection 
>>>> issue with CentOS and Debian (plus about the booting problem without a 
>>>> monitor)
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2VPK26HWQCYAA/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00KX93WQW#R2VPK26HWQCYAA
>>>> 
>>>> We were thinking about deploying these LIVA X boxes around campus BDFs. 
>>>> However, I think we will have to reconsider this because it seems that 
>>>> we cannot even reboot the box remotely without a monitor plugged in all 
>>>> the time.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Joon
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Michael Johnson 
>>>>> <>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Joon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know about the Ubuntu issue in particular, but in my 
>>>>> experience, Debian 7 didn't recognize the eMMC. You might have a 
>>>>> different experience, but I wouldn't expect that to work. Hope this 
>>>>> helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 06:43:22PM +0000, Hyojoon Kim wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It turns out that latest Ubuntu desktop OSes cannot boot without a 
>>>>>> monitor plugged in to the machine, so this happens with the LIVA X box 
>>>>>> as well. Did anyone find a working solution for this? I might just 
>>>>>> move on to using Debian 7 Wheezy, which I assume will not have this 
>>>>>> problem, but I just wanted to check if anyone was successful with this 
>>>>>> matter with Ubuntu before I try Debian 7.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FYI,
>>>>>> This seems to be a known problem:
>>>>>> "Q: Ubuntu can’t boot up without monitor plugged to LIVA MINI PC”
>>>>>> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_LIVA_FAQ.aspx?DetailID=1593&LanID=0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried to solve this problem by following links and using all 
>>>>>> suggestions I can find on the web, including (but not limited to):
>>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1223504
>>>>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/166009/use-ubuntu-graphical-desktop-without-monitor-at-boot
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, all methods did not work for me..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using Ubuntu *Server* OS would be one solution, but I had installation 
>>>>>> problems with that, which I did post about it on this mailing list 
>>>>>> before. (problem: installation process fails to recognize the eMMC 
>>>>>> storage space)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Joon
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Johnson
>>>>> GlobalNOC Software Engineering
>>>>> Indiana University
>>>>> 
>>>>> 812-856-2771
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Michael Johnson
>>> GlobalNOC Software Engineering
>>> Indiana University
>>> 
>>> 812-856-2771
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Johnson
> GlobalNOC Software Engineering
> Indiana University
> 
> 812-856-2771
>