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Re: [pS-dev] New Characteristic Namespaces (Summary)


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  • From: Roman Lapacz <>
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  • Subject: Re: [pS-dev] New Characteristic Namespaces (Summary)
  • Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:02:24 +0200

Jason Zurawski wrote:


2) http://anonsvn.internet2.edu/svn/nmwg/branches/snmp/example_instances/errors/store.xml

supportedEventType parameter is not needed in the key. Data element with a key refers to metadata where supportedEventType is present.



We will need to have this in the key (or perhaps just eventType) for situations when a metadata element describes multiple eventTypes, and may be used by several data blocks w/ keys. Consider a metadata description that is used for utilization, errors, and discards. The corresponding RRD description may use two files (one for utilization, another for errors/discards):
Using parameters element with supportedEventType parameters fits here perfectly. metadataIdRef of data element points to ceratin metadata element with relevant supportedEventType parameter.

<metadata id="1">
<parameters>
<parameter name="supportedEventType">1</parameter>
<parameter name="supportedEventType">2</parameter>
<parameter name="supportedEventType">3</parameter>
</parameters>
</metadata>

<data id="d1" metadataIdRef="1">
<key>
file1
ds0
</key>
</data>

<data id="d2" metadataIdRef="1">
<key>
file1
ds1
</key>
</data>

<data id="d3" metadataIdRef="1">
<key>
file2
ds0
</key>
</data>

<metadata id="1">
<eventType>1</eventType>
<eventType>2</eventType>
<eventType>3</eventType>
</metadata>

<data id="d1" idRef="1">
<key>
<eventType>1</eventType>
</key>
</data>

<data id="d2" idRef="1">
<key>
<eventType>2</eventType>
<eventType>3</eventType>
</key>
</data>



3) http://anonsvn.internet2.edu/svn/nmwg/branches/snmp/example_instances/errors/store.xml

This file is store file so metadata should contain this:

<nmwg:parameters>
<nmwg:parameter name="supportedEventType">http://ggf.org/ns/nmwg/characteristic/errors/2.0</nmwg:parameter>
</nmwg:parameters>

instead of this:

<nmwg:eventType>http://ggf.org/ns/nmwg/characteristic/errors/2.0</nmwg:eventType>




We should move away from 'supportedEventType' and start using actual eventTypes so we can get rid of the layer of indirection that parameters gives us.

I don't see the problem in using parameters here



6) http://anonsvn.internet2.edu/svn/nmwg/branches/snmp/example_instances/errors/MDKRequest2.xml

Parameters in the key in metadata m3 represent more than one namespace so it should look like this:

<nmwg:key id="1">
<nmwg:parameters id="1">
<nmwg:parameter name="supportedEventType">http://ggf.org/ns/nmwg/characteristic/errors/2.0</nmwg:parameter>
<nmwg:parameter name="type">rrd</nmwg:parameter>
<nmwg:parameter name="valueUnits">Eps</nmwg:parameter> <nmwg:parameter name="file">/home/jason/perfSONAR-PS/MP/SNMP/mead.rrd</nmwg:parameter>
<nmwg:parameter name="dataSource">eth0-ifInErrors</nmwg:parameter>
<nmwg:parameters id="2">
<select:parameters id="2">
<nmwg:parameter name="startTime" value="N-50" />
<nmwg:parameter name="endTime" value="N" />
<nmwg:parameter name="resolution" value="1" />
<nmwg:parameter name="consolidationFunction" value="AVERAGE" /> </select:parameters>
</nmwg:key>

This approach should be used in requests and responses.

This is too cumbersome and allowing multiple parameters blocks doesn't look correct in this case. We really should use a chain to describe what is going on, or because the contents of the key is opaque it should not matter what namespace is used to describe the internals.

I think it's quite clear and straightforward. Right, what's inside does not matter for a client but for a service might be interesting and needed not to lose context of parameters. Having all parameters in one namespace nmwg, which in fact might be wrong for some of them, is losing some information.


Roman

-jason




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