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[Richard Carlson <>]

Hi Nathan;

Yes, I meant the Flash client.  Nice work.

I look forward to seeing future versions.

Rich

On 12/19/2014 12:55 PM, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
> Hi Rich,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.  Just to clarify and make sure we're on
> the same page, this is about the Flash client, not the Java client.
> My understanding is that this javascript wrapper is, more than
> anything, just a reference implementation of a wrapper around the
> Flash client.  The idea, I believe, is to give a working example of
> how one could go about doing it, and how the interface can be
> relatively nice looking, with the hope that more people would
> integrate into their sites.  That said, I imagine many may use the
> reference implementation as a base on which to build something a
> little more feature and information complete.
>
> I'm not aware that the Flash client currently makes all of the data
> available to javascript, but I presume there is no reason that it
> couldn't.  As far as I can tell, the Flash client itself only renders
> the detailed data in a somewhat cryptic command-line-like fashion that
> only someone quite technical would be able to parse.  I would image it
> could be quite easy to make that same information in it's current
> format available to the javascript.  I'll take a look at making that
> happen soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nathan
>
> P.S. Not sure about the etiquette on this list yet with regard to
> copying the original poster on replies and top vs bottom posting.
> Defaulting to only copying the list, and top posting (based on this
> message, and others I see in the archive).  If this is wrong, let me
> know.
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Richard Carlson
> <>
>  wrote:
> > Hi Nathan;
> >
> > I just ran the client on my home Linux workstation.  Nice job, I'm pleased
> > that NDT based on-demand testing will continue even if the face of growing
> > Java JRE limitations.
> >
> > While the client gave me the upload/download and RTT data, there was no way
> > to dig into the test results to figure out if these numbers were good, bad,
> > or mediocre.
> >
> > As the original developer of the NDT code I will repeat my mantra, the
> > server is collecting data that can be used to interpret the test results.  I
> > agree that the majority of NDT users are not interested in knowing more than
> > the basic data, but I still think that M-Lab should strive to educate them
> > on the value of knowing more.
> >
> > For example, the NDT server calculates how the clients selection of TCP
> > window size impacts the upload and download speeds.  These are the upper
> > bounds of what could be achieved over the connection.  The server also
> > calculates the speed based on the Mathis formula, this is also a bounding
> > condition.
> >
> > I think it would be great if the display somehow showed the user where they
> > fit in relation to these limits.
> >
> > At a minimum, I would also like to see a button on the screen that would
> > send me the test details.  Again, I know that few, if any, users
> > want/need/understand this data, but the point is, they could look at it or
> > send it to the IT staff when reporting a problem.
> >
> > Regards;
> > Rich