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  • From: James Werle <>
  • To: Randy Stout <>
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  • Subject: Re: Meeting today and call
  • Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:25:40 -0800
hi Randy, that time works for me. great agenda.
James


Randy Stout wrote:
Sorry to take so long to chime in. We do need to take this discussion further and I agree with James, we ought to put Muse development planning on the front burner. In our next call I'd like to share some insight and perspective gained from conversations with members of the SPEC and AMSAC about the OPEN LETTER to the SPEC from K20. I believe we can be encouraged and there are some specific next steps for our follow through.
I have outlined agenda items below for our K20 Exec Team call on Tuesday Nov. 18. Let me know if there are additional items for the group to consider in our next call.
By the way, is it possible to reschedule the call time to begin regularly at *1pm Eastern / 12noon Central / 11am Mountain / 10am Pacific*? Without the change to the start time for this call, I can only promise my availability for the first 1/2 hour. Please let me know by Monday afternoon and either way I'll send a call reminder Tuesday morning with the best start time for everyone and dial in details.

1. Communication Channels with SPEC and Advisory Councils
2. Organizational visibility for K20
3. Update on the status of the budget proposal
4. Muse Development Agenda
5. Committee participation and K20 Leadership composition

Very best regards,
Randy

>>> On 11/13/2008 at 6:07 PM, in message <>, James Werle <> wrote:
Very encouraging note Tim. Thanks for taking that opportunity to
support Muse! Fingers crossed on the funding. I fully concur with the
discussion below. one thing we've certainly learned in the process of
developing Muse to this point is that its essential to create a clear
picture of the needs we're trying to meet and then articulating a solid
set of functionality specifications before launching into the
development phase. this is the ideal time to woodshed this idea while
we're "between programmers"!



Tim Poe wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on this. I completely agree about the need to
> make Muse a financially secure environment. To that end, I did have a
> good dinner conversation with Doug Van Houweling at Educause about the
> need for sustainable funding for Muse, and why I think this is vital to
> serving the SEGPs (now providing $2,000,000 in I2 revenue). I REALLY
> hope that we can see the proposed doubling of Muse funding in the coming
> weeks.
>
> Let's talk more next week.
>
> All the best,
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Gross, Daniel wrote:
>
>> I don’t think it hurts to talk about it. The bigger issue right now is
>> that there is nobody who is employed for coding on Muse. It’s grown
>> beyond a hobby to needing someone versed specifically in working on
>> it, yet there is no money to make sure that person can eat. So part of
>> our discussions have been around trying to find out if there is enough
>> support from Internet2 available to help us keep the Muse framework
>> active and growing and developing new “modules” if you will.
>> >> And that might be the other part of this – how much do we push into
>> Muse, and how much do we look at some type of federated identity and
>> SOAP type sharing that allows us to push/pull data out of other
>> applications? i.e. Can we use the work Instructify has done (haven’t
>> look at them yet) without having to reinvent the wheel, yet allowing
>> one identity across the services and data to flow freely between them
>> and be mashed up in ways beyond what we have imagined.
>> >> So I like the idea. But I am a bit more concerned at least in the
>> short run about keeping Muse itself healthy and growing so that we CAN
>> add new modules/functionality like this. Don’t think it should slow us
>> down on the thinking side though! That way when we do get the
>> resources, we can hit the ground running!
>> >> Dan
>> >> *From:* Tim Poe [mailto:] *On Behalf Of *Tim Poe
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:56 PM
>> *To:* Gross, Daniel
>> *Cc:* James Werle;

>>
<mailto:>
>> *Subject:* Re: Meeting today and call
>> >> All,
>> >> When we meet next week I'd like to talk about a possible proposal. I
>> have been talking for a while about a way for users to rate (think
>> Amazon ratings) collaborative tools. I'm imagining using Muse for
>> identities, and possibly looking to combine efforts with something
>> like Instructify ( http://instructify.com/ ). The idea would be that
>> folks with identities in Muse could provide feedback on various
>> collaborative tools, and others could view the ratings to help them
>> make informed decisions. We would factor in how current the ratings
>> are, so that you can view the last six months, twelve months, etc.
>> Does this sound like something that we could add to next week's agenda?
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Tim
>> >> >> On Nov 11, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Gross, Daniel wrote:
>>
>>
>> News to me James - I just hustled back to the office to make it for our
>> call. Thought we were "standing" on this slot on Tuesdays now?
>>
>> Fine to take off today, but I think we should continue w/ Tuesday calls.
>> We never seem to have a lack of things that need brain cycles.
>>
>> Next week I *may* have two guests from WiscNet: John Pederson and Maddie
>> Covelli. Hope to get them both involved in K20 and supporting some local
>> K20 efforts as well.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Werle
[mailto:]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 PM
>> To: Tim Poe;

>>
<mailto:>
>> Subject: Re: Meeting today and call
>>
>> Hi Tim, we didn't talk specifically about doing the call today but i'm
>> guessing not due to the holiday. i'm offline most of the day but will
>> give you a ring tomorrow.
>>
>> best,
>> James
>>
>> Tim Poe wrote:
>>
>> James,
>>
>> >>
>> Is there a K-20 meeting today? Also, would you please call me when you
>>
>>
>>
>> have a minute?
>>
>> >>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> >>
>> Tim
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> Tim Poe
>>
>> Senior Collaborative Technologist
>>
>> MCNC - Connecting North Carolina's future today
>>
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>>
>> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
>>
>> Phone: 919-248-8417
>>
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>>
>> Fax: 919-248-8419
>>
>> Email:


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>>
>> >>
>> Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other
>>
>> time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that
>>
>> we
>>
>> seek.
>>
>> >>
>> - President-elect Obama
>>
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>> The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love
>>
>> stop
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>> at the border?
>>
>> >>
>> -Pablo Casals
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>> Watch your thoughts, they become words.
>>
>> Watch your words, they become actions.
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>> Watch your actions, they become habits.
>>
>> Watch your habits, they become character.
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>> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
>>
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>> >> Tim Poe
>> Senior Collaborative Technologist
>> MCNC - Connecting North Carolina's future today
>> 3021 Cornwallis Road
>> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
>> Phone: 919-248-8417
>> Mobile: 919-428-1216
>> Fax: 919-248-8419
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>> AIM: timrpoe
>> >> Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other
>> time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that
>> we seek.
>> >> - President-elect Obama
>> >> The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love
>> stop at the border?
>> >> -Pablo Casals
>> >> Watch your thoughts, they become words.
>> Watch your words, they become actions.
>> Watch your actions, they become habits.
>> Watch your habits, they become character.
>> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
>> >> -Shannon Pogue
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> Tim Poe
> Senior Collaborative Technologist
> MCNC - Connecting North Carolina's future today
> 3021 Cornwallis Road
> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
> Phone: 919-248-8417
> Mobile: 919-428-1216
> Fax: 919-248-8419
> Email:


<mailto:>
> http://www.mcnc.org <http://www.mcnc.org/>
> URL: http://www.mcnc.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&filename=tim_poe.html <http://www.mcnc.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&filename=tim_poe.html>
> <http://www.mcnc.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&filename=tim_poe.html <http://www.mcnc.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&filename=tim_poe.html>>
> AIM: timrpoe
>
> Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other
> time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we
> seek.
>
> - President-elect Obama
>
> The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop
> at the border?
>
> -Pablo Casals
>
> Watch your thoughts, they become words.
> Watch your words, they become actions.
> Watch your actions, they become habits.
> Watch your habits, they become character.
> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.
>
> -Shannon Pogue
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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